Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikimedia-l] Reasonator use in Wikipedias

Hoi, The mail I send is meant to be a warning in advance. If you are interested in the "Reasonator", it is in continuous development and information is provided on an almost daily basis. When you have read it, you may understand the potential it has. It will help you understand why it can have a place as a stand in for an article in a Wikipedia and also why it can beat the quality of information of most stubs. There are many ways to skin a cat. The most obvious one is to add a {{Reasonator}} template as a place holder in a Wikipedia. Another is to capture a not found or a red link and insert Reasonator info. What I am trying to do is to give a sense of direction. I am not indicating how it will be done for sure. When the English Wikipedia community makes a decision, it is what the English Wikipedia community thinks best for itself. No problem in that. It would only become a problem when it is inferred to be a decision for every Wikipedia community. The he Media Viewer is very similar to the situation at hand with Wikidata and Reasonator. Wikidata data can be used on every Wikipedia and to some extend this is done on many if not most Wikipedias (including en.wp). Like with Media, it can be confusing that the information is actually not on that local project. It is also not that obvious that Wikidata is not necessarily interested in the policies that are dreamt up locally. The alternative is NOT having central storage of images or NOT having central data storage. Both are not really an option. I like the fact that you come up with some suggestions however, your proposal does not consider disambiguation. At this stage we are improving the information that is provided by Reasonator; the latest iteration has de-cluttered complicated pages like the one for Shakespeare a lot while adding to the information that is made available. Quality information is provided by the Reasonator, the biggest problem I see is that we do not have info-boxes of high quality available when an article is being written. Thanks, GerardM On 21 January 2014 20:07, Ryan Kaldari <rkaldari(a)wikimedia.org> wrote: