I hope we can make this work and help Tor users at least contribute some
content to some Wikimedia projects, even if English Wikipedia needs to keep
up its current policy.
Places to convene to work on this include: the MediaWiki developers' summit
in January in San Francisco
, FOSDEM Jan
31-Feb 1 in Brussels https://fosdem.org/2015/
, the Circumvention Tech
Festival in Spain in March
Some previous discussions
"Can we help Tor users make legitimate edits?" 2012.
"Jake requests enabling access and edit access to Wikipedia via TOR" 2013.
"Tor exemption process" January 2014.
"Anonymous editors & IP addresses" July 2014.
Senior Technical Writer
On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 9:08 AM, Derric Atzrott <
I've been a Tor user for many years and I frequently make use of
proxies services. Recently (yesterday), I set up my
first Tor relay.
has once again gotten the use of Tor and other
anonymising services with
Wikipedia on my mind again.
In a recent article on the Tor blog, Wikipedia is actually called out a
number of times for being unfriendly to Tor, and I think they make a good
"[H]ow can we quantify the loss to Wikipedia, and to society at large,
turning away anonymous contributors? Wikipedians say
'we have to
these IP addresses because of trolls' and
'Wikipedia is rotting because
wants to edit it anymore' in the same breath, and
we believe these points
There must be a way that we can allow users to work from Tor. My
of why we block Tor categorically is that it is very
hard to block
Tor users. Perhaps we could allow Tor users to only
edit pages if they
an account? That would allow us to at least block
those accounts, which
increases the cost of being problematic on Wikipedia a bit.
Or to take from the blog post, perhaps Tor users could be issued a
that they could use to prove their identity from one
session to another.
Tor users would need to prove they are the same person
as someone we
trust or their edits would be put in some sort of
Or combine the two and new accounts made from Tor connections would need
their edits reviewed, or perhaps just wouldn't get
autopatrolled status as
quickly (if ever).
There has got to be a better solution to the problem than just blocking
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