Couple thoughts:
1. ORES platform (ores.wikimedia.org) was designed to host a wide range of machine learning models, not just the ones built by Aaron Halfaker himself. So, if there is a computer scientist out there who is interested in training and maintaining a new bot-detection model, it can be hosted on and surfaced through ORES. Then anyone with some bot- or web-development skills can build tools on top of that model. Noting this because that's one of the main points of having a "scoring platform": it separates the (necessarily WMF-led) work of production platform development from the development of purpose-built tools. 2. If anyone knows a computer scientist who is interested in developing and piloting a model like this please send them our way. Members of the Research team, or Aaron, *may* have capacity to support a formal collaboration 3. This seems way too complex for a GSOC project to me, but I'd love to be wrong about that. If there are students who are interested in working on this, please send them our way (no promises, obvs). 4. Modifying the charter of an existing WMF product team seems somewhat out of scope for this ask, task, and venue. :)
- J
On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 2:19 PM Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for the replies.
I think that detailed discussion of the pros and cons of the Tech Wishlist should be separate from this thread, but I agree that one way to get a subject like unflagged bot detection addressed could be through the Tech Wishlist assuming that WMF is willing to devote resources to that topic if it ranked in the top X places.
It sounds like there are a few different ways that work in this area could be resourced:
- As mentioned above, making it be a tech wishlist item and having
Community Tech work on it; 2. Having the Anti-Harrassment Tools team work on it; 3. Having the Security team work on it; 4. Having the ORES team work on it; 5. Funding work through a WMF grants program; 6. Funding through a mentorship program like GSOC. I believe that GSOC previously supported work on CAPTCHA improvements.
Of the above options I suggest first considering 2 and 4. Having AHAT staff work on unflagged bot detection might be scope creep under the existing AHAT charter but perhaps AHAT's charter could be modified into something that would resemble the charter for an "Administrators' Tools Team". And if the ORES team has already done some work on unflagged bot detection then perhaps ORES and AHAT staff could collaborate on this topic.
In the first half of the next WMF fiscal year, I think that planning for an existing WMF team or combination of staff from existing teams to work on unflagged bot detection would be good. If WMF does not resource this topic, then if community people want unflagged bot detection be resourced, we can consider other options such as 1 and 5.
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