--- Erik Moeller <erik_moeller(a)gmx.de> wrote:
Recently, a new editor (a french language
on the french wiki. He insists on using these
I don't think that's a good idea. It only makes
pages harder to edit
because of the ugly HTML entities.
This is also why I remove the div tag after he used it
for the second time on the same day (the first being
on *my* page)
And why I don't like the anchors he is putting
everywhere. Since most of his articles are very long
(but very good and interesting as well), he puts some
anchors in the text, so links from other articles may
lead to the good paragraph in the very meaty one.
All this is good, but I dare not (and he wishes me not
to) edit article such as the one on greek religion to
avoid messing with the anchors.
This is very unwiki ihmo,
but when I protest, he says I am not the boss and this
is only *my* opinion, and that I am forcing my desire
of simplicity upon others, to the detriment of quality
articles, which may be long, with sankrit or greek or
whatever characters, and anchors, and non-breakable
spaces, and div spaces :-((((
This one is a nightmare to me.
I have no idea what other people see here, but as for
myself, it is scarry
And since other editors either don't say anything or
push the use of anchors, complicated html codes, fancy
small bars, div tags and such, who am I to say
anything all alone ???
This desolate me, but if the consensus is to make
editing difficult, I can only try to salvage my little
area of edition.
Here is my
edit (I was removing a div in a talk
use of div is becoming more and more common, as
as use of anchors to support 40 or 50 kb pages)
And here is Vincent next edit, restoring manually
the non-breakable spaces behind me
I don't see how anything was "broken" by your
browser and I strongly doubt
that Netscape would have any such bug. Vincent
inserted the s for
the first time in the above edit after yours, as the
page source code for
the earlier revision shows. Any changes in display
he noticed are likely
the result of how his browser handles word/character
wrapping, which may
change when more words/characters are added. It
could also be that he
pasted the text from some word processor and
inserted hard spaces in that
application, which were lost during the copy and
Ah, yes, he absolutely does so. Word processor.
I know because he lectured me on the fact I didnot
know the proper usage of non-breakable spaces (which I
do, but do not respect in the least ;-)). He gave me a
link to a page explaining how to do non-breakable
spaces from my editor. He also said any decent editor
was supporting writing properly good french, and that
I should not edit anything even on talk pages without
having first run the grammatical/typo corrector.
Because my editing without accents, and with spelling
mistakes on talk pages was not respectful of readers.
'Cause we were not a chat, but an encyclopedia
We've got to be serious ! This is no joke work !
But there is *no* grammatical/typo corrector on a wiki
edit page :-((
All I can conclude from this comment is that he is
indeed writing all what he upload to wiki on a Word
(or equivalent) editor first hand. Is that usual ???
It happens I prepare long articles on Word before, or
that I save text on simpletext when there are lags, to
avoid loosing them, but all I write is just straight
edited in wiki.
The only other person I apparently messed text a
couple of times on our pump is Aoineko.
Do you remember Aoi ? Do you write sometimes your text
on editors rather than on wiki edit windows ?
is quite obvious that your edits did not break
anything because the
s Vincent added were still there after your
further edits to the
Well, I will try to explain that to him
But he will probably answer that I am the only one
doing so with his non breakable editor spaces.
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