Wikitech-l April 2013

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Problems with file deletion on Commons
by Eugene Zelenko 15 Apr '13

15 Apr '13

Hi! I'd like to bring to attention of developers and system administrators problems with file deletion on Commons: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Dai… Sorry, if it's known issue, but it persist for several days and definitely affects administrators job. Eugene.

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Next bugday: Apr 15, 16:00-20:00UTC on old reports without updates for 18 months
by Andre Klapper 15 Apr '13

15 Apr '13

Hi everybody, Please join us on the next Wikimedia Bugday: Monday, April 15th, 16:00-20:00 UTC [1] in #wikimedia-office on Freenode IRC [2] We are going to take a look at old reports, trying to reproduce some plus provide feedback. Currently these are about 140 tickets (see [3] for a list). Everyone is welcome to join, and no technical knowledge needed! It's a nice and easy way to get involved in the community or to give something back. Join IRC, say hello and that you're here for the bugday, and have fun. This information and more can be found here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bug_management/Triage/20130415 For more information on Triaging in general, check out https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bug_management/Triage We look forward to seeing you! andre (PS: You can find the results of the last bug day here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Bug_management/Triage/20130402 ) [1] Timezone converter: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html [2] See http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/IRC for more info on IRC chat [3] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/buglist.cgi?bug_severity=blocker&bug_severit… -- Andre Klapper | Wikimedia Bugwrangler http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/

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HTML versioning information in skins?
by Bartosz Dziewoński 15 Apr '13

15 Apr '13

tl;dr: Let's add class="skintimestamp-YYYYMMDD" to <body> in all skins, so we can make HTML+CSS changes without breaking the sites. [Resending as it doesn't seem to have gotten through the first time.] We need HTML versioning information needed in skins to be able to cleanly make incompatible CSS changes. In the Wikimedia setup generated page HTML is cached for ~30 days regardless of skin HTML changes, while CSS&JS is purged at most a few minutes after a change is deployed. This is a highly suboptimal situation, as this means that in every change that modifies both the HTML and the CSS, the CSS must be backwards-compatible with old HTML. This requires a lot of care and additional awkward testing and causes major issues when not done carefully enough (e.g. bug 42452), and sometimes just isn't possible at all unless some transitional hacks are inserted (e.g. bug 46947). Luckily this isn't an issue for most third-party wikis, as `php update.php` after upgrade purges the cache entirely. ---- I'm proposing adding another class to <body>, "skintimestamp-YYYYMMDD", where YYYYMMDD is the year, month and day of the time that given skin's HTML was last modified in an incompatible way. Day should be enough granularity to avoid conflicts while keeping the class name short enough. This can be easily done using the addToBodyAttributes() method of the Skin class. The timestamp would be updated manually by whoever is making those changes, and the class could be used in the CSS to only apply new styles to newly generated HTML. Older styles could be simply left intact, and then removed after enough time has passed. If multiple incompatible changes are ever done in overlapping time periods, the successive ones would include updates to the "old new" styles to use both the new and old class. Thoughts? [Bug for this is https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=46956 , but let's keep the discussion here, please.] -- Matma Rex

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Scribunto REPL (debug console)
by Ori Livneh 15 Apr '13

15 Apr '13

Small Python script to run an interactive Scribunto session in your terminal, using Scribunto's API module: https://gist.github.com/atdt/5382043/raw/d083ff757066200728c0b50992ab6c7bb1… :) -- Ori Livneh

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Updating the dump file?
by Sajid Hussain 14 Apr '13

14 Apr '13

Hi!. I downloaded “pages-articles.xml.bz2″ and I am using it through WikiTaxi. It’s working fine but I have a question. I downloaded the above mentioned dump which was created in Jan. 2013. Now there’s the new version of this dump available created in April 2013. My question is can I update my older dump to the current one without downloading all the data? I only need the updates. Please help. -- Sajid Hussain,

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vagrant issues
by Moritz Schubotz 14 Apr '13

14 Apr '13

Hi, after updateing my vgrant folder via git deleting the oracle vm folder and recreating the vm I have two issues 1) there is no database wiki; only test without tables. 2) if I log in I get the following message -bash: /etc/virtualbox-version: No such file or directory Your VirtualBox guest additions are out-of-date. Please run 'update-guest-additions'. Is there a way to recreate the db? Best regards physikerwelt -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Moritz Schubotz Telefon (Büro): +49 30 314 22784 Telefon (Privat):+49 30 488 27330 E-Mail: schubotz(a)itp.physik.tu-berlin.de Web: http://www.physikerwelt.de Skype: Schubi87 ICQ: 200302764 Msn: Moritz(a)Schubotz.de

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Recycling wikitech-announce for tech contributors
by Quim Gil 13 Apr '13

13 Apr '13

Hi, We were missing a way to notify tech contributors and volunteers about new activities, and after some discussion [1] we have decided to recycle the unused https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-announce Subscribers will receive CALLS FOR ACTION ONLY e.g. for activities like the ones listed at https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project:Calendar. No announcements of new releases, features removed, etc. We have channels already for that. We will sync the announcements at wikitech-announce with with wikitech-l and wikitech-ambassadors. While this is not a big deal for current contributors following already wikitech-l and a number of wiki pages etc, it will help potential volunteers willing to get involved and know about opportunities to contribute. [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Project_talk:New_contributors#How_to_solve_N… PS: before clicking reply please read http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/wiki/wikitech/282349 :) -- Quim Gil Technical Contributor Coordinator @ Wikimedia Foundation http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Qgil

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Gsoc 2013 Project Proposal v2.0 -Pronunciation Recording Tool
by Rahul Maliakkal 13 Apr '13

13 Apr '13

Hello, I am Rahul Maliakkal , a 3rd year Computer Science student ,i wish to apply for GSOC 2013 edition. Based on the feedback and suggestions received i have improved my proposal as i like to call it* v2.0 .* Please do have a look at it https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Rahul21/Gsoc Continue to keep the suggestions and feedback pouring in. Thanks, Rahul

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Pre-Release Announcement for MediaWiki 1.19.5 and 1.20.4
by Chris Steipp 13 Apr '13

13 Apr '13

This is a notice that on Monday, April 15th between 20:00-21:00 UTC (1-2pm PDT) Wikimedia Foundation will release security updates for current and supported branches of the MediaWiki software. Downloads and patches will be available at that time, with the git repositories updated later that afternoon. CVSS scores are between 4.3 and 7.1, most users will want to update.

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Clicktracking being phased out
by Matthew Flaschen 13 Apr '13

13 Apr '13

We are in the process of phasing out Clicktracking. An example of this is https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/46205/ . If you are relying on this for an extension, you should explore other options, such as https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Event_logging . Matt Flaschen

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