Wikitech-l August 2012

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Wiki Loves Monuments Android App v1.1 beta3
by Philip Chang 24 Aug '12

24 Aug '12

Greetings WLM testers, Below you'll find the last beta of our Android app before final launch in one week. As before, make sure to have "Unknown sources" in Settings => Applications turned on. Uploads will go to test wiki so feel free to upload whatever you like. Download: http://dumps.wikimedia.org/android/WLM-v1.1beta3.apk Feedback: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki /Wiki_Loves_Monuments_mobile_application/Feedback Please try the following: * Browse by campaign and drill down to the desired region's monuments * Sort the list by name and address * Search with a search term * Open a monument, click on "Get directions" * Click on add a photo * Login or create a Commons account * Choose from gallery or take a photo * Choose "Save for Later" on the Confirm Upload screen * Go back to the opening screen * Click on "Use my current location" * Move around the map, open a cluster (a group of monuments close together) * Click on a pin, open the monument * Add a photo (login should be retained) * Choose "Save for Later" on the Confirm Upload screen * Click OK and choose or take another photo * Go to Uploads and see the uploads saved for later * Select some of the deferred uploads and upload them Let us know what you think! Known issues: * The word Campaign will be changed to Country * After deleting or uploading monuments saved for later, screen does not refresh Please forward this email as appropriate. -- Phil Inje Chang Product Manager, Mobile Wikimedia Foundation 415-812-0854 m 415-882-7982 x 6810

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Lists you might not know about
by Sumana Harihareswara 24 Aug '12

24 Aug '12

I've just updated https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mailing_lists and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Overview#Mediawiki_and_techni… . Sorry for the spam, but you really should take a moment to skim and see whether there are lists there you should join. I especially want to single out: design mediawiki-api-announce mediawiki-i18n -- localisation and internationalisation labs-l -- for when you have a question or request re Wikimedia Labs analytics wikitext-l -- the new Visual Editor & parser -- Sumana Harihareswara Engineering Community Manager Wikimedia Foundation

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Test error
by Jeroen De Dauw 24 Aug '12

24 Aug '12

Hey, I got a unit test (added here: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/14870/) causing some error which I can't figure out the cause of. The error is "Error: 1137 Can't reopen table: 'unittest_smw_ids'", full message here: http://dpaste.org/B2npZ/ Anyone an idea what might be going on? Cheers -- Jeroen De Dauw http://www.bn2vs.com Don't panic. Don't be evil. --

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Lua deployed to test2wiki
by Tim Starling 24 Aug '12

24 Aug '12

The Lua extension (Scribunto) is now enabled on test2wiki. Feedback would be greatly appreciated, especially if it comes in the form of bug reports and feature requests filed in the "Scribunto" component in Bugzilla. <https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=MediaWiki%20extensions…> -- Tim Starling

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Wikidata status
by Daniel Kinzler 24 Aug '12

24 Aug '12

Hi all Here's a quick update on what has been happening with Wikidata. After I was off duty last week, I have picked up work on the Wikidata branch again (aka the ContentHandler stuff). Discussion is happening mostly on Bugzilla: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=38622 I have tried to address several of Tim's concerns, and will hopefully wrap up the lose ends early next week. Here's the Gerrit log: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/project:mediawiki/core+branch:Wikidata,n… While I'm still working on this, I'm very much welcoming any comments, reviews, criticism, whatever. Please look at the code and let me know what you think! Other than that, there's the ungoing discussion about a new system for managing interwiki/linterlanguage link targets. The RFC is here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/New_sites_system Here, too, we are working on it, but more comments are still encouraged. Thanks Daniel

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GSoC wrapup report: Simple Uploader for Beginners and Experts
by Platonides 24 Aug '12

24 Aug '12

My GSoC project was developing a program for uploading Wiki Loves Monuments photos to Wikimedia Commons [1] Timing seemed great, chaining the end of my previous task with the beginning of GSoC and the end of GSoC with WLM 2012. Maybe it would be a little adjusted at the beginning, but not being a too exigent GSoC project, there would be plenty of time for completion. Or so I thought. The work in the Real World delayed, pushing down the Google Summer of Code, which by its own nature had lower priority. I also made another appreciation error when considering how much I would advance with a "foreign" computer. I ended up sprinting the last days to get a deliverable by the deadline, something that seemed impossible at times, while I was regretting signing up. I should also talk about my relationship with my mentor, but it was pretty much non-existant. With little to no advance to report, I wasn't motivated to contact her, and she was too busy with other duties to contact me. So we failed from both sides. :( I'd love to work with her in the future, but under different conditions. In the given circumstances, I feel it was an error for her to accept me as student. The mentor slot should have been assigned to someone else. Had a student new to mediawiki, with a project needing more support, received this level of mentoring, I doubt he could have finished / it would have been a mergeable result. OTOH, if someone was going to receive this, I guess I wasn't that a bad election. :/ Despite the smashed planification, results weren't too bad. I completed a prototype [2], which implements the core functionality, asking the user all the needed information and performing the uploads. It misses one dialog, and has the big drawback of not being internationalised: the application is hardcoded in the mixture of languages I used (for distributing as mockups) when developing. I had envisioned a translation method which involved making a new translatewiki backend, but it was clear pretty soon that translations would need to stay out of the 'release'. Another point I had planned that was not fullfiled was preference-handling and load/save of sets of monuments. All preferences are hardcoded right now. Those are easy to add, though. Currently, the program has a functionality similar to the Upload Wizard, in that you need to be online to work with it. However, I feel it is superior in the usecase of uploading a full folder, both in selecting and preparation (plus uploading in the background while preparing new files). I plan to slowly be adding -outside of GSoC- some of those missing features and dealing with the (previsible) feedback. Although short of time due to the above mentioned issues, it was refreshing to do some C++ coding. I had only worked with dynamic languages recently, or with lower-level C. C++ provided enough class magic to make for comfortable coding, with enough pointers to crash your program (and a framework complex enough to discard valgrind usage) :) I was disappointed with wxWidgets HTTP support, though. There were a couple of problems I had to overcome by myself and had to patch a third one on the library. I have uploaded at [2] the source, windows and linux binaries. Everyone is welcome to play with them and test the application. Following the lead of the mobile team with beta uploading, those binaries upload to http://test.wikipedia.org/ instead of Wikimedia Commons. It doesn't have many of the commons templates the program expects (you can preview in Wikimedia Commons if you wish), but it doesn't disrupt the project. Best regards 1- http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.wikilovesmonuments/2641 2- http://toolserver.org/~platonides/sube/

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Meta: Inproper Line Breaks
by Derric Atzrott 24 Aug '12

24 Aug '12

I get the feeling sometimes that either mailman or Outlook completely ignores where I am putting my line breaks and put them wherever it pleases. The last email I sent I started a line with "> defended" which when I received the email from the list had instead "> community defended" with some rather strange looking mid-sentence, nowhere close to 100 char, line breaks. Do my emails look terrible to anyone else? Has anyone else had this problem before? Do anyone know the solution? I know that this sort of thing is usually out of scope on this list, but I felt it was appropriate here because if my emails look just as bad to all of you, then it is probably terribly annoying. Thank you, Derric Atzrott Computer Specialist Alizee Pathology

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Nested database transactions
by Daniel Kinzler 24 Aug '12

24 Aug '12

On 23.08.2012 22:49, Brion Vibber wrote: > Well, the main reason is probably that MySQL doesn't support nested > transactions... trying to simulate them with a counter sounds fragile, as a > single rollback would roll back the entire transaction "tree", not just the last > nested one you started (or else do nothing if you just decrement the counter, > also possibly dangerous if you expected the rollback to work). To me it seems correct and safe to assume that a ROLLBACK will cause all open transactions to fail. I don't see any problem with handling things this way. Am I missing something? Was there any *concrete* problem that caused this feature to be removed? On 23.08.2012 23:21, Brion Vibber wrote: > On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Evan Priestley <epriestley(a)phacility.com>wrote: > >> We solve this in Phabricator by using BEGIN (depth 0) or SAVEPOINT (depth >> 1+) when incrementing the counter, ROLLBACK TO SAVEPOINT (depth 1+) or >> ROLLBACK (depth 0) when decrementing it after a failure, and nothing (depth >> 1) or COMMIT (depth 0) when decrementing it after a success. Our experience >> with transaction stacks has generally been good (no real surprises, doesn't >> feel magical, significantly reduces the complexity of transactional code), >> although we don't support anything but MySQL. >> > > Oooh, nice! Hadn't come across SAVEPOINT before. > > http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/savepoint.html Hm... that'S a 404 for me. For some reason, this is missing in the 5.0 manual, even though it exists in 4.1 and 5.1: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.1/en/savepoint.html Anyway, this seems like a neat solution if it is handled automatically by begin(), rollback() and commit(), so the calling code doesn't have to be aware of the current transaction level. I'm tempted to implement this. Any objections? -- daniel PS: -- Daniel Kinzler, Softwarearchitekt Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | Eisenacher Straße 2 | 10777 Berlin http://wikimedia.de | Tel. (030) 219 158 260 Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985.

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GSoC: improving Incubator usability and MediaWiki language support
by Robin Pepermans 23 Aug '12

23 Aug '12

Hi, As a volunteer developer for MediaWiki, I have for quite some time been working on two related things: improving the usability of Wikimedia Incubator through an extension, and improving internationalization and language support in MediaWiki. My Google Summer of Code project was a continuation of these. A difficulty for me is that I usually code whatever comes up at a certain point, as opposed to having a detailed plan, so GSoC was in that regard different for me, plus looking at what I did so far generally, I think I have done greater things for MediaWiki (like improving RTL support) in the past than now during GSoC. In MediaWiki core I wanted to include all ISO 639 language codes [1] and their names and I wanted to make a cache for the MediaWiki language names in general. This has been done, although the cache is implemented only for the list of ISO 639 languages. As for unplanned things, I continued working on the page content language, specifically converting DateFormatter, dates in sortable tables and default image alignment [2] to the page content language; I also did a few more things, e.g. added a Uzbek Latin-Cyrillic language converter[3]. In the WikimediaIncubator extension, I created a special page (Special:IncubatorFirstSteps[4]) that guides users through setting up an account and/or creating a test wiki. I improved the automatic info pages [5] which welcome users to a certain test wiki and I added a parser function which will eventually replace the current info page template. It should therefore be able to take parameters, and not all of them have been added yet but the general structure is ready. The database and logo code is rewritten, enabling localized logos on the info pages (not important, but nicer). Lastly, I wanted to add filtering and suggestions for language codes in inputboxes where they need to be entered, which I did in the preferences. Now I will still work on the extension and I will likely be active on MediaWiki in general, but as I explained I do not really have a plan :) In core however, I think I would still like to add the feature to specify the page content language via the interface (into the database), currently it is only possible through an extension hook. My mentor was Niklas, and as we are both more quiet persons we did not communicate as often as it probably should in GSoC; on the other hand I am familiar with MediaWiki so I did not have a lot of questions or problems. In any case I would like to really thank him for his time and all the code review he did for my code commits. It was also very nice to have regular deployments to Wikimedia wikis, especially since Incubator is in phase 1, so it gets code updates quickly after the code is branched. Lastly, I probably could have achieved more in the GSoC summer, but it is always surprising how fast the time can go even though you are a lot of your time at your computer. Thank you, Robin Pepermans (SPQRobin) [1] All languages: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/11829/ [2] Default image alignment: on translations in RTL languages, images are correctly aligned at the left instead of right, for example on https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Highlights,_May_2012/ar [3] Uzbek converter: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/15690/ [4] https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:IncubatorFirstSteps [5] Incubator info pages are in the format Wx/xyz, e.g. https://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wn/bn All my recent commits: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/q/owner:SPQRobin,n,z

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Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikitech-l Digest, Vol 109, Issue 82
by Richard Morris 23 Aug '12

23 Aug '12

> Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 15:32:49 +0100 > From: Neil Harris > Yes. Absolutely this: in some sort of platform-wide repositry, in the > same way that Commons does for images. > > This is also a real chance to clean up many of the cross-wiki > infelicities that have built up in the old template system. > > And coord, citation, and infobox templates are the obvious places to start. Dont forget {{convert}} that is the most evil template I know of, with many layers of sub templates to mimic printf type functionality. Richard

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