Wikitech-l March 2012

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Native 404 handling branch ready for testing (; ) please try to break it)
by Daniel Friesen 31 Mar '12

31 Mar '12

I put up an RFC earlier for native handling of entrypoints and 404 handling inside of MediaWiki: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/Entrypoint_Routing_and_… I've begun the initial code in a branch: https://github.com/dantman/mediawiki-core/compare/master...2012%2F404-routi… I incorporated Extension:Special404's 404 special page for now and updated my PathRouter and WebRequest code I implemented awhile ago to differentiate between requests that are 404s and requests that should go to the main page. So it's already handling 404s. Of course there are more things I plan to clean up, improve, and add to this handling. But right now I encourage people to try pulling this change in and trying it out. Set your 404 error handler to index.php or rewrite any nonexistent file to index.php (remember you NEVER want a ?title=$1 in the /index.php for any rewrite or error handler) I would love to see if anyone manages to break it and make it serve a 404 page when it should actually be sending you to the main page. -- ~Daniel Friesen (Dantman, Nadir-Seen-Fire) [http://daniel.friesen.name]

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"The confusion around QA", nice article
by Chris McMahon 31 Mar '12

31 Mar '12

This article was making its way around the testosphere this morning to much approval. Although I question some of the numbers cited, I like the overall description a lot, and since I have been having so many discussions about QA on various projects, I thought it would be of interest to wikitech: It's a short read, "The Confusion Around QA" http://www.headspring.com/2012/03/the-confusion-around-qa-why-doesnt-the-in…. (Ian Baker in particular will I think recognize some of the points here that we covered in our own discussions)

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I'd prefer that you didn't submit this
by Chad 30 Mar '12

30 Mar '12

Hi everyone, There's been some comments that the phrasing for a -1 vote in Gerrit ("I'd prefer that you didn't submit this") is kind of personal and we can do better. I did some testing and this is totally configurable :) It won't change for old comments that were already submitted, but we can pick some nicer wording going forward. I really don't have any good suggestions for this, so I'm opening this up to the list for a bit of good old fashioned bikeshedding. Thanks! -Chad

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jQuery update policy
by Amir E. Aharoni 30 Mar '12

30 Mar '12

Hi, I made a little localization fix to the jQuery.ui datepicker, which is used by the Upload Wizard. I submitted it upstream through GitHub and it was merged there. Krinkle says that jQuery is supposed to be only modified upstream, and that is a Good Thing. What is our policy for actually merging upstream jQuery changes to MW code? -- Amir Elisha Aharoni · אָמִיר אֱלִישָׁע אַהֲרוֹנִי http://aharoni.wordpress.com ‪“We're living in pieces, I want to live in peace.” – T. Moore‬

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17 hours to submit a talk to Open Source Bridge, get WMF subsidy
by Sumana Harihareswara 30 Mar '12

30 Mar '12

http://opensourcebridge.org/blog/2012/03/cfp-deadline-extended-until-march-… You (yes you, no matter where you live or who you work/don't work for) have less than a day to submit a talk about Wikimedia stuff to Open Source Bridge, a great open source conference. If your talk gets accepted, tell me, and WMF will partially or fully subsidize your flight and hotel. Details and ideas: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2012-March/058791.html I'll be there (keynote speaker), and Roan, Alolita, RobLa, Trevor, Ironholds, jorm, and Ward Cunningham have submitted talks. Join us! -- Sumana Harihareswara Volunteer Development Coordinator Wikimedia Foundation

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Email addresses for wikimedians
by Petr Bena 30 Mar '12

30 Mar '12

Hi, Lot of volunteers are using email to communicate when they discuss wikimedia related issues. Even if it's not a big problem to use personal email there, lot of people, especially administrators do not want to uncover their personal email. Lot of them even have a special private mail for wikipedia purposes. Although wikimedia has own email server on wikimedia domain, it's being given to paid staff only, so question is if it would be worth of having an email service for volunteers who request it (it should be probably limited to users who match some criteria) or just a forward service which can help us to get our personal email hidden (this would not eat space and would be very cheap). I understand that people from foundation might have concerns that volunteers with wikimedia.org emails could cause some troubles or people might be in thought they are employees, so why not to use some another domain, like wmflabs.org for developers and wikipedia.org for wikipedians for example (other domains for respective projects). What do you think?

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GSOC Watchlist Grouping/RecentChanges Proposal
by Aaron Pramana 30 Mar '12

30 Mar '12

I have posted a full proposal for my GSOC project. Please check it out here: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Blackjack48/GSOC_proposal_for_watchlist… Feedback and suggestions are welcome. -Aaron

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Git Triage notes
by mah＠wikimedia.org 29 Mar '12

29 Mar '12

Since we're still struggling with Git, Gerrit, and figuring out the new work-flow, Sumana asked me to hold a triage on the the issues people have filed in Bugzilla and then write this follow-up report. I used the open blockers on #22596 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=22596) to guide the triage. Chad wasn't able to be in IRC at the time, but he did update the etherpad (http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/BugTriage-2012-03) and Bugzilla afterwards. http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/33773: [TestSwarm] fetcher need git support Antoine had filed this bug but had since decided to just use Jenkins to push new code to testswarm. WONTFIX'd. http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34141: Integrate Jenkins with Git Antoine said that this is (after his current focus on 1.19) his highest priority and he will be focused on it. http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34426: installer: ability to override LocalSettings.php filename Antoine made the following note on the bug (which is mostly a placeholder for himself): I am going to need this in Jenkins to setup a local fetch out to be able to use multiple databases backend. The fix is easy to handle and not that much needed till we start having tests against MySQL / postgre backends which are not high priority. http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/34349: Triage Git conversion issues wiki pages Sumana made this -- turning issues noted on the wiki into Bugzilla issues so that they would be easier to track -- into a TODO for herself http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35144: Autolink to new Gerrit / Git changesets and SHA-1 commits Chad has updated bugzilla to support links to "gerrit #XXX". We'll probably want to update it further to support Gerrit's GIT ids following RobLa's suggestion: The Gerrit UI seems to prefix Git ids with a capital "I", even offering a button for copying the full SHA-1 hash to the clipboard prefixed with the "I". I plan to set up a Labs instance of Bugzilla -- which we need to do to enable puppetizing Bugzilla -- so I'll have a chance to look at other Git links then. http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35145: Make git-review more easy to install on Windows Although we have some contributors who use Windows, this isn't a blocker for them, so we lowered the priority. We do want to make sure that new contributors are able to use Gerrit, though, so this will be something we are interested in. http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35460: Need commit notes to match SVN revision numbers for core Chad writes: refs/notes/commits has information regarding the original SVN commit info. This is correct and in place for SVN extensions, but I messed it up for core. It's not super-high priority, but I don't know if anyone other than me can do it. http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35462: Tell git on gerrit.wikimedia.org not to generate spurious terminal sequences Antoine said that Marcin could work on this. Marcin confirmed that he would try to track this down, so I assigned it to him. http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35469: Let LocalisationUpdate fetch from Git An update to this script was deployed by operations. When we checked during the Triage, though, it wasn't working. Roan tracked this down and commited a fix. http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35497: Two-way syncing between Gerrit and GitHub Since I'm currently working on a way to merge patches from Bugzilla to Gerrit, I don't think this would be too much trouble to add once I have that working. Anyone else who wants to integrate GitHub or Gitorious before I get to it should feel free to, though. http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35429: Setup external git mirrors/clones Chad said that "It should be pretty easy--gerrit has built-in replication we can use." http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35508: List of Gerrit users After some discussion during triage, Sumana clarified this request: This request is for us to hack something by generating a user page based on the Gerrit database, per the instructions in https://groups.google.com/group/repo-discuss/msg/c426b6a83400b58e http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35510: Make Gerrit project list more discoverable and available We'd like to get the scrape this data from the UI. Chad gives a pointer in the right direction if anyone wants to tackle this: Something working from gerrit.wm.o/r/gerrit/rpc/ProjectAdminService should do. http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35455: Change Gerrit database schema to support utf8 Supposedly, this would come out of the box if we used PostgreSQL or the embedded H2 database backend, we would get this out-of-the-box. Chad thinks this is silly and thinks he can change the collation without an issue. He'll test his theory soon. http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35531: Send email notifications of all MediaWiki commits to mediawiki-cvs list "Trivial -- someone just has to play with the hooks" http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35532: Include unified diff in gerrit email notifications http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35533: Include link to unified diff in gerrit notifications Chad says an upstream change is required for these two fixes. http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35534: Implement a way to group related commits (allowing a commit to be in multiple groups) http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35535: No way to mark merged commits as needing fixing Again, Chad says this is an upstream request to allow free-form tagging. http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35537: Commits from the l10n-bot should be merged immediately (automatically) Chad's on this--high priority http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/35538: Commits from the l10n-bot shouldn't create too much spam We don't know of a clean way around this right now for e-mails yet (suppress e-mail via hook?), but we can easily skip IRC stuff with some minor tweaks to the hooks. Thank you to all participants! -- Mark A. Hershberger Bugmeister Wikimedia Foundation mah(a)wikimedia.org

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Regarding GSoC 2012
by Aashish Mittal 29 Mar '12

29 Mar '12

Hello everyone, I am Aashish Mittal, a final year student from Mumbai University, India. I aim to take part in GSoC 2012 with Mediawiki and wish to get an early start in knowing and understanding the software well. I am relatively new to the organizationg. I have been through the intro steps <http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/How_to_become_a_MediaWiki_hacker> and the project ideas of this year. I have started working on the code and submitted a patch for one of the bugs (bug 33545<https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=33545>) and am looking into solving more bugs. I am going through the projects and the attached links. However, I would request some more details on the following projects: 1. Integration of Mediawiki/Sakai: I have been a GSoC student with Sakai in 2010, so I would like to explore the project more deeper. 2. Convention extension for converting mediawiki wiki into website for conference. I have been through the links, but I would like to get a better technical understanding of this project related to the implementation of the project. Any appropriate link or some useful guidelines would be great. Apart from the above two projects, I am interested in a couple of more projects (Create a way to have “books” for wikisource/wikibooks<https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15071>and Give editors a way to slice and dice their watchlists with groups)<https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5875>. I am going through the comments on their bugzilla page. Kindly provide me with some suggestions or tips which would help me understand the project and their implementation aspects better. Any help regarding the same would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. Regards, Aashish -- Aashish Mittal Student at University of Mumbai Gtalk: ashishmittal.mail(a)gmail.com LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/aashishmittal

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"Swipe" search tool uses infoboxes, DBPedia to search Wikipedia
by Sumana Harihareswara 29 Mar '12

29 Mar '12

Oren, check this out. Could you reach out to these researchers and tell them to subscribe to this list if they haven't already? :-) http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn21625-new-search-tool-to-unlock-wikip… "New search tool to unlock Wikipedia" - 28 March 2012 by Paul Marks http://swipe.i-mozart.com/www2012demo/TR_swipe.pdf "Called Swipe - loosely short for "searching Wikipedia by example" - the software aims to let users of the online encyclopedia answer complex questions that most search engines would stumble over.... "The pair wrote Swipe using MediaWiki, the software Wikipedia is based on, but it draws its answers from DBpedia... "...Swipe "activates" those Wikipedia info boxes, allowing users to take the data in them and create a tweaked version, and in doing so calls up pages that match that altered information.... "Swipe could easily be made available as an option on Wikipedia one day, says Atzori...." Just a heads-up. -- Sumana Harihareswara Volunteer Development Coordinator Wikimedia Foundation

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