Hi Folks
I am writing to all of you to correct a potential error. As you might be aware, the Wikimedia Foundation has set itself an important objective of supporting the community in India to expand participation. As part of this, India Programs has been set up - and I work for it.
I have put together a plan for India (please see http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_-_India_Programs) - and I had communicated this on the India mailing list. This has generated interest as well as debate and discussion. However, I understand that some of you might not be on that mailing list. I therefore thought I'd correct this by reaching out directly to you and requesting you to have a look at the page and share your comments (on the Talk Page or on this mailing list or directly to me; my contact details are in my signature.) It outines the thinking behind India Programs, key initiatives, milestones, team structure, visit reports, IRC logs, recommendations on office location and some other details. I hope you find it interesting, and I'd love to hear your views / comments / suggestions.
Also, we I have a monthly IRC on India Programs with whoever is interested - on the first Thursday of every month. I'll send out an invite to your mailing list from now on. Do see if you can join in.
I am also going to try and attend as many community meet-ups in as many locations as possible - so I look forward to meeting as many of you as possible, as soon as possible. If you would be kind enough to let me know when the next meeting is planned for and on what schedule (e.g. 2nd Saturday, etc.) then I'll work out how to attend asap.
(Do excuse me if you have received this message through other mailing lists, or it's a bit of a duplication if you are already on the India mailing list.)
Thank You.
Warm Regards,
Hisham Mundol
Wikimedia Foundation India Programs
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Great!! What more, this comes on Tamil New year !!
Agree with Sundar that Google must push this from server side. Instead of
spending huge money on translations etc, these efforts actually help Indic /
regional language Wikipedia's
Regards
Srikanth.L
On Thu, Apr 14, 2011 at 10:58, BalaSundaraRaman <sundarbecse(a)yahoo.com>wrote:
> Great, Yuvi. Let's all use this feature ourselves and hopefully Google will
> take not of it and promote the other language wiki pages in their search
> results themselves.
>
> - Sundar
>
> "That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium
> for the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted."
> - George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture
>
> --- On *Thu, 4/14/11, Yuvi Panda <yuvipanda(a)gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Yuvi Panda <yuvipanda(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Indic Language Wiki Results in Google (With
> a Chrome Extension)
> To: "Discussion list on Indian language projects of Wikimedia." <
> wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> Date: Thursday, April 14, 2011, 12:31 AM
>
>
> Update: I've now added ability to change language. Just go to
> 'Options' (from the extensions page) and enter your language code (hi
> for hindi, etc). Needs a big UX liftup though.
>
> On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 11:21 PM, Yuvi Panda <yuvipanda(a)gmail.com<http://mc/compose?to=yuvipanda@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> > I've been working for a few hours on a Chrome extension to add links
> > to Indic Language Wiki pages when searching in Google. It hooks into
> > Google's search results, and if it finds an enwiki article (to which a
> > tawiki interwiki link also exists), it'll display it side by side.
> > Screenshot here: http://min.us/mbmIeeUOb8y00p#1
> >
> > You can test the extension by installing it from here:
> >
> https://chrome.google.com/extensions/detail/gpoogepkjnjfmpijnpaocncdjbedaee…
> >
> > It is open source, and the code is available here:
> > https://github.com/yuvipanda/yenWikipedia/. You can file issues here
> > https://github.com/yuvipanda/yenWikipedia/issues/.
> >
> > Known issues:
> > 1. Doesn't work when Google Instant is turned on (turn it off)
> > 2. Doesn't work for some country specific subdomains (which don't have
> > /search url part. Current solution: use google.com :P)
> > 3. Currently hardcoded to display links to tawiki only (Will have to
> > build an options dialog to support other languages)
> > 4. Needs a better logo (Help in this department would be highly
> appreciated :) )
> >
> > I think this is one step forward in fixing the search issue -
> > discovering content in Indic Language wikis is now easier.
> >
> > Thanks to Srikanth Lakshmanan for alpha testing.
> >
> > Feedback welcome :)
> >
> > P.S. I'm also working on a Firefox version of this addon. Stay tuned :)
> >
> > --
> > Yuvi Panda T
> > http://yuvi.in/blog
> >
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Thanks much Yuvi. Great work. Looking forward for more hacks. I would post
about this in Wikitech list and ask for suggestions / using the extension
across Indic / non latin wikimedia projects. Probably we can rename as
TidyURL since its not really short and short is not we care about,tidy is
important(its a nice to have). Some more support for using the extension on
all projects will do good in seeing this in real :)
Regardis
Srikanth.L
http://srik.me
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 02:01, Yuvi Panda <yuvipanda(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Short Update.
>
> As requested by Srikanth, I've implemented the user configurable "URL
> Prefix" so any domain with proper forwarding can be used. I've also
> added a link by default to Toolbox. Will add base64 encoding soon.
>
> The Extension is live at http://wiki.busroutes.in. Example 'short' url
> is http://wiki.busroutes.in/wiki/Special:ShortUrl/18q. We could
> implement mod_rewrite rule and get it much shorter.
>
> Is there interest in getting this out to tawiki? We could have URLs
> like, http://ta.wikipedia.org/r/1d2 or similiar.
>
> --
> Yuvi Panda T
> http://yuvi.in/blog
>
Looking forward to hear more such success stories from other languages.
Congrats to Tamil Wikipedians for the efforts. What is more exciting is that
this leap was mostly organic growth.
Regards
Tinu Cherian
On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Anivar Aravind <anivar.aravind(a)gmail.com>wrote:
> Congrats Tamil Wikipedian's. Crossing 30000 Mark is an Important mile
> stone for any non latin -wikipedia
> They have to cross barriers of Technology, Access to computers,
> Language and many more hurdles in the process to grow.
> Congrats Tamil wikipedian's for crossing this 30000 article mark.
>
> ~ Regards
> Anivar Aravind
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I thank you Shiju, Hisham, and Naveen, as a Tamil wikian. :)
- Sundar
"That language is an instrument of human reason, and not merely a medium for
the expression of thought, is a truth generally admitted."
- George Boole, quoted in Iverson's Turing Award Lecture
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From: Naveen Francis <naveenpf(a)gmail.com>
To: Wikimedia India Community list <wikimediaindia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
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Sent: Sun, April 10, 2011 11:53:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Tamil Wikipedia crossed the 30, 000 articles
milestone
+1 .. Congrats !!!
On 10 April 2011 10:41, Hisham Mundol <hmundol(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
This is fantastic. Great show, Tamil Wikipedians!
>
>
>Hisham Mundol
>India Programs - Wikimedia Foundation
>
>
>http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_-_India_Programs
>skype: hisham.wikimedia
>gtalk: hmundol(a)wikimedia.org
>twitter: @mundol
>
>
>
>On Apr 8, 2011, at 11:03 PM, Shiju Alex wrote:
>
>Today Tamil Wikipedia has crossed the 30,000 article milestone. With this it has
>become the 6th Indic language wikipedia that crosses this milestone (after
>Newari, Hindi, Telugu, Marathi, and Bishnupriya Manipuri)
>>
>>Congrats for Tamil wiki community on this achievement.
>>
>>Shiju
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Yeah true. Tamil is at Fifth position.
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 11:07 PM, Bala Jeyaraman <sodabottle(a)gmail.com>wrote:
> Thanks Shiju,
> I think we are the fifth to cross 30k. Bishnupriya manipuri hasn't reached
> it yet (it is at at 25k)
>
> regareds
> Bala
>
> On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Shiju Alex <shijualexonline(a)gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Today Tamil Wikipedia <http://ta.wikipedia.org> has crossed the 30,000
>> article<http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%AE%9A%E0%AE%BF%E0%AE%B1%E0%AE%AA%E0%AF%8D%…>milestone. With this it has become the 6th Indic language wikipedia that
>> crosses this milestone (after Newari, Hindi, Telugu, Marathi, and
>> Bishnupriya Manipuri)
>>
>> Congrats for Tamil wiki community on this achievement.
>>
>> Shiju
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On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 07:14, Yuvi Panda <yuvipanda(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> After talking with Srikanth for a bit more, I was able to quickly
> hackup this mediawiki extension[1] that does exactly the same thing
> tawp.in does now, but in the same domain. So you'll have URLs like
> http://ta.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:ShortUrl/262. While definitely
> longer than http://tawp.in/r/262, it can be made much shorter via a
> simple apache mod_rewrite so http://ta.wikipedia.org/r/262 also works.
> The advantage of having it as an extension is, ofcourse, that the
> wikipedia is no longer dependent on code run on a 3rd party server (in
> this case, tawp.in).
>
> [1]: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ShortUrl
Now that is *really quick*. It would definitely be useful for not just
wikipedia, any non latin mediawiki can use this.There was a request on tamil
wikipedia for tamil wikinews as well. I think polishing this and making it
available on all non latin wiki will help :)
> Feedback welcome :)
>
Feedback from mediawiki extn perspective : Options to set the "ShortURL" to
be displayed on client side will help. For instance I could install this on
mediawiki server, but for shortname sake I may still want the short domain
name to be used (I might use mod_rewrite in the short domain). Also base 36
will not be able to cater larger wiki's like en.wiki. This should be made
configurable. Probably the simplest way to display in client side is to add
a line to Toolbox page. (This will make it "standardized") and also makes it
load faster since there wont be an additional js download and will work even
when non js browsers. ( #facepalm to me for having spent a long time trying
to bring it on right spot on the UI [and still its buggy on FA pages])
Please post to Wikitech-I to get more technical feedback :)
> P.S. My first ever mediawiki extension. I've verified it works, but
> testing would be welcome too :)
>
Welcome to Mediawiki. We need more love from geeks like you :) especially
for a lot of indic solutions. Feel free to mail this list with any ideas you
may have.
Regards
Srikanth.L
http://srik.me