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Oggetto: [Wikimedia-l] Swedish Wikipedia reach 1 million (with support
of bots)
Data: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 13:30:16 +0200
Mittente: Anders Wennersten <mail(a)anderswennersten.se>
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Yesterday sv:wp reached 1 M articles. The one who did the passing was a
bot generated article of a butterfly
http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erysichton_elaborata.
The bot behind this article is Lsjbot who creates articles from the
database Catalogue of Life
http://www.catalogueoflife.org/services/res/2011AC_26July.zip which
(complemented by other databases) which holds data of around 1.5 million
species. The bot genrates about 5000 new articles per day and has
generated just under 400 000 of the sv:wps million and continues...
The guy who runs he bot is a member of the Swedish chapters board
http://se.wikimedia.org/wiki/Kandidater_2013/Sverker_Johansson and is in
his civil life a University teacher. In this capacity he is also a guest
lecturer at the university of the Phillipines where he stayed the last
couple of months (and the bot was on hold). He is there active in
Cebuano-Wikipedia http://ceb.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unang_Panid and
supporting their local community, and he is now running his bot on their
wikipedia as well as on the Warai-Warai Wikipedia
http://war.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syahan_nga_Pakli. So perhaps at the end of
the year these two language versions will also pass the 1 million mark!
Anders
PS out other major botgenerating effort of all lakes in Sweden is also
making very nice progress, done 25% of all DS
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> 1. Re: [Wikimedia-l] WikiData and WikiSpecies (Andrew Leung)
>
> I agree with Nemo. Please see my message written in January 2013 that demonstrates the problem (except it's worse because Wikidata is populated with more contents now than in January)
> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikispecies-l/2013-January/000076.html
Hello Andrew,
I believe Nemo's point is that Wikidata will become a useful tool for
Wikispecies, and can hold all of the structured data Wikispecies
needs; so that WS can focus on presentation and search and showcasing
related information.
You seem to be suggesting that WD is not useful for this and should be
avoided. In contrast, I think that WS is a n obvious next client
site; and hope that the community will help to make the relevant
species data clean and complete within WD.
@Nikola: I believe you are right. Since the core WD team is not
likely to have time to work on such interfaces, this needs some
interested folks to start developing and testing that interface and
identifying any bugs or features needed to make it work well.
Warmly,
Sam.
> Nemo writes:
>> Nikola Smolenski writes:
>> > What if this interface would exist? I believe it could be made really
>> > quickly and easily.
>>
>> From what I understand, the interface for Wikidata data is provided by
>> client sites such as Wikipedia. There are no plans for inclusion of
>> Wikispecies as client site, but if/when Wikispecies' needs are
>> implemented this doesn't imply Wikispecies would be useless, rather that
>> it would have easier access to data and could focus on its scope i.e.
>> presenting such data. Currently it tries to do both and IMHO fails at both.
Nikola Smolenski, 03/06/2013 11:44:
> What if this interface would exist? I believe it could be made really
> quickly and easily.
It's not about interface only, for instance the search backend is
completely broken and useless for Wikidata, AFAICS.
From what I understand, the interface for Wikidata data is provided by
client sites such as Wikipedia. There are no plans for inclusion of
Wikispecies as client site, but if/when Wikispecies' needs are
implemented this doesn't imply Wikispecies would be useless, rather that
it would have easier access to data and could focus on its scope i.e.
presenting such data. Currently it tries to do both and IMHO fails at both.
Nemo
P.s.: There are also connected problems like sv.wiki becoming a
Wikispecies/Wikidata on its own with a million species bot-entries, but
it's another story.
Ting Chen, 03/06/2013 11:29:
> I happened to worked with a few biology interwikis on WikiData today and
> saw the taxnomical data on it. Given that WikiData is growing and more
> potential would not it be a good idea to merge WikiSpecies data into
> WikiData
Yes,
> and close WikiSpecies (hope now there will no stones or rotten
> tomatos flying for this naive question ;-) )?
no.
<https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Project_chat/Archive/2013/02#Include…>
<http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikispecies-l/2013-January/thread.html>
TL;DR: Wikidata offers only a partial way to store information and no
real interface at all for browsing it.
Nemo