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balaji

4 Jan 2018 4 Jan '18

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mathieu stumpf guntz

4 Jan 4 Jan

10:47 p.m.

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Hello all, For a book I am proof reading there is a requirement to create wavy line. The link for the page is https://ta.wikisource.org/s/6du The wavy line is appearing in many pages. Is there any template to create this effect.? Regards, J. Balaji. (User:Balajijagadesh) _______________________________________________ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l

Andy Mabbett

11:16 p.m.

On 4 January 2018 at 16:56, balaji <balajijagadesh(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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For a book I am proof reading there is a requirement to create wavy line. The link for the page is https://ta.wikisource.org/s/6du The wavy line is appearing in many pages. Is there any template to create this effect.?

Why not just use a straight horizontal rue? It's styling, not content, and conveys no significant meaning.

Alex Brollo

11:19 p.m.

I think that repeating a character isn't a clean solution - it would be difficult to get an "elastic" covering of 100% of page width. I'd use a background instead. Alex 2018-01-04 22:47 GMT+01:00 mathieu stumpf guntz < psychoslave(a)culture-libre.org>gt;:

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You might use a simple wavy dash : 〰, with as many as you want 〰〰〰〰. Creating a template like {{wavy-dash|repeat=80}} should be too difficult. Will you need help for that, if this solution is fine for you? Le 04/01/2018 à 17:56, balaji a écrit : Hello all, For a book I am proof reading there is a requirement to create wavy line. The link for the page is https://ta.wikisource.org/s/6du The wavy line is appearing in many pages. Is there any template to create this effect.? Regards, J. Balaji. (User:Balajijagadesh) _______________________________________________ Wikisource-l mailing listWikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.orghttps://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l _______________________________________________ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l

Alex Brollo

5 Jan 5 Jan

12:09 a.m.

2018-01-04 23:16 GMT+01:00 Andy Mabbett <andy(a)pigsonthewing.org.uk>uk>:

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Why not just use a straight horizontal rue? It's styling, not content, and conveys no significant meaning.

I respectfully disagree - *works *are content, *editions *are contens plus styling IMHO.

Bodhisattwa Mandal

4:05 a.m.

Hi, You can import this template from English Wikisource https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Template:Custom_rule Regards, Bodhisattwa On 5 Jan 2018 4:40 am, "Alex Brollo" <alex.brollo(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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2018-01-04 23:16 GMT+01:00 Andy Mabbett <andy(a)pigsonthewing.org.uk>uk>:

Why not just use a straight horizontal rue? It's styling, not content, and conveys no significant meaning.

I respectfully disagree - *works *are content, *editions *are contens plus styling IMHO. _______________________________________________ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l

David Starner

4:12 a.m.

On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 3:10 PM Alex Brollo <alex.brollo(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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2018-01-04 23:16 GMT+01:00 Andy Mabbett <andy(a)pigsonthewing.org.uk>uk>:

Why not just use a straight horizontal rue? It's styling, not content, and conveys no significant meaning.

I respectfully disagree - *works *are content, *editions *are contens plus styling IMHO.

Most significant editions have different content, and PDFs can maintain most of the styling of the original (but not the paper, the weight, gold leaf, etc.). Once you start transcribing the text, you're creating a new edition. How close you want to try and maintain the styling is something that each Wikisource and each Wikisorcerer needs to decide, probably even on a edition by edition basis. In this case, a straight horizontal rule is likely as good as a curved line, but that depends on details of the work and what the editors involved want.

Andy Mabbett

12:51 p.m.

On 4 January 2018 at 23:09, Alex Brollo <alex.brollo(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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2018-01-04 23:16 GMT+01:00 Andy Mabbett <andy(a)pigsonthewing.org.uk>uk>:

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> Why not just use a straight horizontal rue? It's styling, not content, > and conveys no significant meaning.

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I respectfully disagree - works are content, editions are contens plus styling IMHO.

In that case, what does the wavy line /mean/? How would you convey that meaning to a non-visual user? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

balaji

5:42 p.m.

Hello every one, Thanks for everyone taking effort to reply. I tried various solutions. Repeating a single character wouldnt be desirable. Because the effect wouldnt be same for different screen sizes. I tried the custom rule template. But with the parameters i could do, I could only produce a wavy line of short length. Is there a way to create the wave effect for full length like a line? I tried a solution by Alex. It seems to work okay in firefox. But doesnt look good in chrome. As people pointed out, the shape of the line doesnt convey any meaning. Its true. Just wanted to try if there is any easy way to format to look as its original. If not possible going to use a simple straight line. Thanks J. Balaji (User:Balajijagadesh <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Balajijagadesh>) On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 5:21 PM, Andy Mabbett <andy(a)pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:

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On 4 January 2018 at 23:09, Alex Brollo <alex.brollo(a)gmail.com> wrote:

2018-01-04 23:16 GMT+01:00 Andy Mabbett <andy(a)pigsonthewing.org.uk>uk>:

> Why not just use a straight horizontal rue? It's styling, not content, > and conveys no significant meaning.

I respectfully disagree - works are content, editions are contens plus styling IMHO.

In that case, what does the wavy line /mean/? How would you convey that meaning to a non-visual user? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk _______________________________________________ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l

Alex Brollo

5:53 p.m.

Let's try too with backgrounds, I'll test using my tamil wikisource user.common.css, then you will export into MediaWiki:Common.css if I'll get a decent result. Alex 2018-01-05 17:42 GMT+01:00 balaji <balajijagadesh(a)gmail.com>om>:

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Hello every one, Thanks for everyone taking effort to reply. I tried various solutions. Repeating a single character wouldnt be desirable. Because the effect wouldnt be same for different screen sizes. I tried the custom rule template. But with the parameters i could do, I could only produce a wavy line of short length. Is there a way to create the wave effect for full length like a line? I tried a solution by Alex. It seems to work okay in firefox. But doesnt look good in chrome. As people pointed out, the shape of the line doesnt convey any meaning. Its true. Just wanted to try if there is any easy way to format to look as its original. If not possible going to use a simple straight line. Thanks J. Balaji (User:Balajijagadesh <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Balajijagadesh> ) On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 5:21 PM, Andy Mabbett <andy(a)pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:

On 4 January 2018 at 23:09, Alex Brollo <alex.brollo(a)gmail.com> wrote:

2018-01-04 23:16 GMT+01:00 Andy Mabbett <andy(a)pigsonthewing.org.uk>uk>:

> Why not just use a straight horizontal rue? It's styling, not content, > and conveys no significant meaning.

I respectfully disagree - works are content, editions are contens plus styling IMHO.

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balaji

5:59 p.m.

Hi Alex, Thanks for the help. Cheers On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 10:23 PM, Alex Brollo <alex.brollo(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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On 4 January 2018 at 23:09, Alex Brollo <alex.brollo(a)gmail.com> wrote:

2018-01-04 23:16 GMT+01:00 Andy Mabbett <andy(a)pigsonthewing.org.uk>uk>:

> Why not just use a straight horizontal rue? It's styling, not content, > and conveys no significant meaning.

I respectfully disagree - works are content, editions are contens plus styling IMHO.

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Bodhisattwa Mandal

6:11 p.m.

For custom rule, you can use as many w|40 parameter as you like to get full length wave. Best, On 5 Jan 2018 10:30 pm, "balaji" <balajijagadesh(a)gmail.com> wrote: Hi Alex, Thanks for the help. Cheers On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 10:23 PM, Alex Brollo <alex.brollo(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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On 4 January 2018 at 23:09, Alex Brollo <alex.brollo(a)gmail.com> wrote:

2018-01-04 23:16 GMT+01:00 Andy Mabbett <andy(a)pigsonthewing.org.uk>uk>:

> Why not just use a straight horizontal rue? It's styling, not content, > and conveys no significant meaning.

I respectfully disagree - works are content, editions are contens plus styling IMHO.

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balaji

6:35 p.m.

Hi Bodhisattwa Mandal, Thanks for replying back. Actually since the screen size of the reader is not know it would be best if there is some kind of auto width solution. For example a horizontal straight line created with template:rule. The width of the line is auto. If I use many w|40 parameter there might be chances of overflow or underflow. Thanks & Regards, J. Balaji. On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 10:41 PM, Bodhisattwa Mandal < bodhisattwa.rgkmc(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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On 4 January 2018 at 23:09, Alex Brollo <alex.brollo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > 2018-01-04 23:16 GMT+01:00 Andy Mabbett <andy(a)pigsonthewing.org.uk>uk>: >> Why not just use a straight horizontal rue? It's styling, not content, >> and conveys no significant meaning. > I respectfully disagree - works are content, editions are contens plus > styling IMHO. In that case, what does the wavy line /mean/? How would you convey that meaning to a non-visual user? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk _______________________________________________ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l

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