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Erasmo Barresi

14 Sep 2013 14 Sep '13

12:38 p.m.

My answers: Q: Currently you are using an individual engagement grant, what about the future when the grant has finished or spent? How you will fund your UG?A: The UG does not need funding per se. As explained in the "Transforming words into action" section of the UG page, only some projects will require monetary support. When money is needed, grants can be used. Q: I want to know if you are thinking in future. Are you thinking in a kind of organization for your UG like a proposal of Board, structure or membership requirements for WS UG?A: Not yet. Personally, the UG will be primarily a means for discussion. Wikisource language communities should interact more.If organization is needed, I propose the election of three or four leaders. If membership requirements are needed, I propose the following ones. "You can join the UG if you have made 15+ (fifteen or more) edits to Wikisource _and_ your first one dates back to 5+ (five or more) days ago." Q: Until now Aubrey and Micru are the most active in the UG, what about the rest of supporters? Are they really involved? Are there real-life activities to involve them? Have any plan for a future face-to-face meeting?A: You can find me online, though I could not currently take part in any real-life activity or meeting. Discussions are among my favorite activities. I'd sometimes like more radical decisions instead of having legacy around. "Don't be afraid of innovations" could/will be one of the UG's principles. Erasmo

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Andrea Zanni

14 Sep 14 Sep

6:01 p.m.

New subject: Wikisource User Group

Thank Erasmo. Would you please copy and paste your answers here ? http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikisource_User_Group#AffComm_questions If the group cannot come up with a joint reply, it's OK I think to answer personally, one by one. Aubrey On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Erasmo Barresi <erasmo_barresi(a)live.it>wrote;wrote:

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My answers: Q: Currently you are using an individual engagement grant, what about the future when the grant has finished or spent? How you will fund your UG? A: The UG does not need funding per se. As explained in the "Transforming words into action" section of the UG page, only some projects will require monetary support. When money is needed, grants can be used. Q: I want to know if you are thinking in future. Are you thinking in a kind of organization for your UG like a proposal of Board, structure or membership requirements for WS UG? A: Not yet. Personally, the UG will be primarily a means for discussion. Wikisource language communities should interact more. If organization is needed, I propose the election of three or four leaders. If membership requirements are needed, I propose the following ones. "You can join the UG if you have made 15+ (fifteen or more) edits to Wikisource _and_ your first one dates back to 5+ (five or more) days ago." Q: Until now Aubrey and Micru are the most active in the UG, what about the rest of supporters? Are they really involved? Are there real-life activities to involve them? Have any plan for a future face-to-face meeting? A: You can find me online, though I could not currently take part in any real-life activity or meeting. Discussions are among my favorite activities. I'd sometimes like more radical decisions instead of having legacy around. "Don't be afraid of innovations" could/will be one of the UG's principles. Erasmo _______________________________________________ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l

Econterms

11:36 p.m.

New subject: Wikisource User Group

Tangentially, regarding:

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Are there real-life activities to involve them? Have any plan for a future face-to-face meeting?

I proposed a track or conference in North America for Wikisource training and discussion. Would welcome support or other feedback here:

...

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Wikisource_training_conferenc…

That page is at an "IdeaLab" space for blue-sky proposals. If people agree on the idea it will be feasible to apply for funding from WMF for travel, etc. -- econterms (peter) On Sep 14, 2013, at 11:01 AM, Andrea Zanni <zanni.andrea84(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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My answers: Q: Currently you are using an individual engagement grant, what about the future when the grant has finished or spent? How you will fund your UG? A: The UG does not need funding per se. As explained in the "Transforming words into action" section of the UG page, only some projects will require monetary support. When money is needed, grants can be used. Q: I want to know if you are thinking in future. Are you thinking in a kind of organization for your UG like a proposal of Board, structure or membership requirements for WS UG? A: Not yet. Personally, the UG will be primarily a means for discussion. Wikisource language communities should interact more. If organization is needed, I propose the election of three or four leaders. If membership requirements are needed, I propose the following ones. "You can join the UG if you have made 15+ (fifteen or more) edits to Wikisource _and_ your first one dates back to 5+ (five or more) days ago." Q: Until now Aubrey and Micru are the most active in the UG, what about the rest of supporters? Are they really involved? Are there real-life activities to involve them? Have any plan for a future face-to-face meeting? A: You can find me online, though I could not currently take part in any real-life activity or meeting. Discussions are among my favorite activities. I'd sometimes like more radical decisions instead of having legacy around. "Don't be afraid of innovations" could/will be one of the UG's principles. Erasmo _______________________________________________ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l

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Andrea Zanni

24 Sep 24 Sep

12:20 p.m.

New subject: Wikisource User Group

Thanks Econterms. The right link is: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki /Grants:IdeaLab/Wikisource_training_conference_or_videos I just subscribed myself. That could be a great project to fall under the umbrella of the Wikisource User Group. (BTW, you all got a message in your Meta talk page). Aubrey On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 10:36 PM, Econterms <econterms(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Tangentially, regarding:

Are there real-life activities to involve them? Have any plan for a

future face-to-face meeting? I proposed a track or conference in North America for Wikisource training and discussion. Would welcome support or other feedback here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Wikisource_training_conferenc… That page is at an "IdeaLab" space for blue-sky proposals. If people agree on the idea it will be feasible to apply for funding from WMF for travel, etc. -- econterms (peter) On Sep 14, 2013, at 11:01 AM, Andrea Zanni <zanni.andrea84(a)gmail.com> wrote: Thank Erasmo. Would you please copy and paste your answers here ? http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikisource_User_Group#AffComm_questions If the group cannot come up with a joint reply, it's OK I think to answer personally, one by one. Aubrey On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Erasmo Barresi <erasmo_barresi(a)live.it>wrote;wrote:

My answers: Q: Currently you are using an individual engagement grant, what about the future when the grant has finished or spent? How you will fund your UG? A: The UG does not need funding per se. As explained in the "Transforming words into action" section of the UG page, only some projects will require monetary support. When money is needed, grants can be used. Q: I want to know if you are thinking in future. Are you thinking in a kind of organization for your UG like a proposal of Board, structure or membership requirements for WS UG? A: Not yet. Personally, the UG will be primarily a means for discussion. Wikisource language communities should interact more. If organization is needed, I propose the election of three or four leaders. If membership requirements are needed, I propose the following ones. "You can join the UG if you have made 15+ (fifteen or more) edits to Wikisource _and_ your first one dates back to 5+ (five or more) days ago." Q: Until now Aubrey and Micru are the most active in the UG, what about the rest of supporters? Are they really involved? Are there real-life activities to involve them? Have any plan for a future face-to-face meeting? A: You can find me online, though I could not currently take part in any real-life activity or meeting. Discussions are among my favorite activities. I'd sometimes like more radical decisions instead of having legacy around. "Don't be afraid of innovations" could/will be one of the UG's principles. Erasmo _______________________________________________ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l

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Peter Meyer

25 Sep 25 Sep

5:23 a.m.

New subject: Wikisource User Group

Thanks much! I garbled the URL and thank you for fixing it. We could use more explicit supporters. I am optimistic anyway that the WMF will support this. -- peter On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 5:20 AM, Andrea Zanni <zanni.andrea84(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Thanks Econterms. The right link is: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Wikisource_training_conferenc… I just subscribed myself. That could be a great project to fall under the umbrella of the Wikisource User Group. (BTW, you all got a message in your Meta talk page). Aubrey On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 10:36 PM, Econterms <econterms(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Tangentially, regarding:

Are there real-life activities to involve them? Have any plan for a future face-to-face meeting?

I proposed a track or conference in North America for Wikisource training and discussion. Would welcome support or other feedback here: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Wikisource_training_conferenc… That page is at an "IdeaLab" space for blue-sky proposals. If people agree on the idea it will be feasible to apply for funding from WMF for travel, etc. -- econterms (peter) On Sep 14, 2013, at 11:01 AM, Andrea Zanni <zanni.andrea84(a)gmail.com> wrote: Thank Erasmo. Would you please copy and paste your answers here ? http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikisource_User_Group#AffComm_questions If the group cannot come up with a joint reply, it's OK I think to answer personally, one by one. Aubrey On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Erasmo Barresi <erasmo_barresi(a)live.it> wrote:

My answers: Q: Currently you are using an individual engagement grant, what about the future when the grant has finished or spent? How you will fund your UG? A: The UG does not need funding per se. As explained in the "Transforming words into action" section of the UG page, only some projects will require monetary support. When money is needed, grants can be used. Q: I want to know if you are thinking in future. Are you thinking in a kind of organization for your UG like a proposal of Board, structure or membership requirements for WS UG? A: Not yet. Personally, the UG will be primarily a means for discussion. Wikisource language communities should interact more. If organization is needed, I propose the election of three or four leaders. If membership requirements are needed, I propose the following ones. "You can join the UG if you have made 15+ (fifteen or more) edits to Wikisource _and_ your first one dates back to 5+ (five or more) days ago." Q: Until now Aubrey and Micru are the most active in the UG, what about the rest of supporters? Are they really involved? Are there real-life activities to involve them? Have any plan for a future face-to-face meeting? A: You can find me online, though I could not currently take part in any real-life activity or meeting. Discussions are among my favorite activities. I'd sometimes like more radical decisions instead of having legacy around. "Don't be afraid of innovations" could/will be one of the UG's principles. Erasmo _______________________________________________ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l

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Andrea Zanni

27 Sep 27 Sep

11:30 a.m.

New subject: Wikisource User Group

If you haven't done yet, please reply to the AffCom questions here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikisource_User_Group#New_AffCom_quest… And, more important, check and improve the WS community poll here: https://wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource_vision_development/Open_community_po… and discussion here: https://wikisource.org/wiki/Talk:Wikisource_vision_development/Open_communi… Next week we should make it a proper survey and deliver. My goal is for Wikisource *editors* to reply, but I will be happy for all users and wikiMedians to join. The more answers, the better. I would suggest you to ask your community for the use of the Sitenotice. Aubrey On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 4:23 AM, Peter Meyer <econterms(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Thanks Econterms. The right link is:

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Wikisource_training_conferenc…

I just subscribed myself. That could be a great project to fall under the umbrella of the

Wikisource

User Group. (BTW, you all got a message in your Meta talk page). Aubrey On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 10:36 PM, Econterms <econterms(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Tangentially, regarding: > > Are there real-life activities to involve them? Have any plan for a > > future face-to-face meeting? > > I proposed a track or conference in North America for Wikisource

training

> and discussion. Would welcome support or other feedback here: > > >

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Wikisource_training_conferenc…

> > > That page is at an "IdeaLab" space for blue-sky proposals. If people > agree on the idea it will be feasible to apply for funding from WMF for > travel, etc. -- econterms (peter) > > > On Sep 14, 2013, at 11:01 AM, Andrea Zanni <zanni.andrea84(a)gmail.com> > wrote: > > Thank Erasmo. > Would you please copy and paste your answers here ? > >

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikisource_User_Group#AffComm_questions

> > If the group cannot come up with a joint reply, it's OK I think to

answer

> personally, one by one. > > Aubrey > > > On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Erasmo Barresi <

erasmo_barresi(a)live.it>

> wrote: >> >> My answers: >> >> Q: Currently you are using an individual engagement grant, what about

the

>> future when the grant has finished or spent? How you will fund your UG? >> A: The UG does not need funding per se. As explained in the

"Transforming

>> words into action" section of the UG page, only some projects will

require

>> monetary support. When money is needed, grants can be used. >> >> Q: I want to know if you are thinking in future. Are you thinking in a >> kind of organization for your UG like a proposal of Board, structure or >> membership requirements for WS UG? >> A: Not yet. Personally, the UG will be primarily a means for

discussion.

>> Wikisource language communities should interact more. >> If organization is needed, I propose the election of three or four >> leaders. If membership requirements are needed, I propose the following >> ones. "You can join the UG if you have made 15+ (fifteen or more)

edits to

>> Wikisource _and_ your first one dates back to 5+ (five or more) days

ago."

>> >> Q: Until now Aubrey and Micru are the most active in the UG, what about >> the rest of supporters? Are they really involved? Are there real-life >> activities to involve them? Have any plan for a future face-to-face

meeting?

>> A: You can find me online, though I could not currently take part in

any

>> real-life activity or meeting. Discussions are among my favorite

activities.

>> I'd sometimes like more radical decisions instead of having legacy

around.

>> "Don't be afraid of innovations" could/will be one of the UG's

principles.

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