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Sam Wilson

12 Oct 2017 12 Oct '17

4:14 a.m.

No validated works found for ko

The ws-cat-browser is saying it can't find any validated and categorized mainspace works on kowikisource. Is this correct? Is there any meant to be anything in the validated-index category? https://ko.wikisource.org/wiki/%EB%B6%84%EB%A5%98:%EA%B2%80%EC%A6%9D%EB%90%… Thanks, Sam.

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Gerard Meijssen

12 Oct 12 Oct

5:18 a.m.

Hoi, Is there a query in Wikidata for all the validated and complete books in Wikisource? Thanks, GerardM On 12 October 2017 at 06:14, Sam Wilson <sam(a)samwilson.id.au> wrote:

No validated works found for ko

The ws-cat-browser is saying it can't find any validated and categorized mainspace works on kowikisource. Is this correct? Is there any meant to be anything in the validated-index category? https://ko.wikisource.org/wiki/%EB%B6%84%EB%A5%98:%EA% B2%80%EC%A6%9D%EB%90%9C_%EC%83%89%EC%9D%B8 Thanks, Sam. _______________________________________________ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l

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Sam Wilson

5:22 a.m.

Nope. The validation-status data is unlikely to ever be in Wikidata. The tool below gets this information from category-membership of Index pages. On Thu, 12 Oct 2017, at 01:18 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote:

Hoi, Is there a query in Wikidata for all the validated and complete books in Wikisource?> Thanks, GerardM On 12 October 2017 at 06:14, Sam Wilson <sam(a)samwilson.id.au> wrote:

No validated works found for ko

The ws-cat-browser is saying it can't find any validated and categorized>> mainspace works on kowikisource. Is this correct? Is there any meant to be anything in the validated-index category? https://ko.wikisource.org/wiki/%EB%B6%84%EB%A5%98:%EA%B2%80%EC%A6%9D%EB%90%… Thanks, Sam. _______________________________________________ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l

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Yongmin H.

5:37 a.m.

Assuming it’s index: namespace, we didn’t have such feature until I translated Index: (and the companion NS) in 2014 or 15, and even after then nobody seemed to care about the index: ns stuff. I’m not a kowikisource regular editor, as a disclaimer. -- Yongmin Sent from my iPhone https://wp.revi.blog Text licensed under CC BY ND 2.0 KR Please note that this address is list-only address and any non-mailing list mails will be treated as spam. Please use https://encrypt.to/0x947f156f16250de39788c3c35b625da5beff197a. 2017. 10. 12. 13:14, Sam Wilson <sam(a)samwilson.id.au> 작성:

No validated works found for ko

The ws-cat-browser is saying it can't find any validated and categorized mainspace works on kowikisource. Is this correct? Is there any meant to be anything in the validated-index category? https://ko.wikisource.org/wiki/%EB%B6%84%EB%A5%98:%EA%B2%80%EC%A6%9D%EB%90%… Thanks, Sam. _______________________________________________ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l

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Gerard Meijssen

6:14 a.m.

Hoi, What does it take to get the validation-status in Wikidata. If anything it is the most important attribute. Knowing what people can read trumps everything. Thanks, GerardM On 12 October 2017 at 07:22, Sam Wilson <sam(a)samwilson.id.au> wrote:

Nope. The validation-status data is unlikely to ever be in Wikidata. The tool below gets this information from category-membership of Index pages. On Thu, 12 Oct 2017, at 01:18 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: Hoi, Is there a query in Wikidata for all the validated and complete books in Wikisource? Thanks, GerardM On 12 October 2017 at 06:14, Sam Wilson <sam(a)samwilson.id.au> wrote:

No validated works found for ko

The ws-cat-browser is saying it can't find any validated and categorized mainspace works on kowikisource. Is this correct? Is there any meant to be anything in the validated-index category? https://ko.wikisource.org/wiki/%EB%B6%84%EB%A5%98:%EA%B2%80% EC%A6%9D%EB%90%9C_%EC%83%89%EC%9D%B8 Thanks, Sam. _______________________________________________ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l *_______________________________________________* Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l _______________________________________________ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l

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Gerard Meijssen

6:15 a.m.

Hoi, When this data is in Wikidata, we can build a query that shows all the ready books in every language. We can then package it and measure how often books are read. This is the purpose of Wikisource isn't it? Thanks, GerardM On 12 October 2017 at 07:37, Yongmin H. <lists(a)revi.pe.kr> wrote:

Assuming it’s index: namespace, we didn’t have such feature until I translated Index: (and the companion NS) in 2014 or 15, and even after then nobody seemed to care about the index: ns stuff. I’m not a kowikisource regular editor, as a disclaimer. -- Yongmin Sent from my iPhone https://wp.revi.blog Text licensed under CC BY ND 2.0 KR Please note that this address is list-only address and any non-mailing list mails will be treated as spam. Please use https://encrypt.to/0x947f156f16250de39788c3c35b625da5beff197a. 2017. 10. 12. 13:14, Sam Wilson <sam(a)samwilson.id.au> 작성: No validated works found for ko The ws-cat-browser is saying it can't find any validated and categorized mainspace works on kowikisource. Is this correct? Is there any meant to be anything in the validated-index category? https://ko.wikisource.org/wiki/%EB%B6%84%EB%A5%98:%EA% B2%80%EC%A6%9D%EB%90%9C_%EC%83%89%EC%9D%B8 Thanks, Sam. _______________________________________________ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l _______________________________________________ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l

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billinghurst

7:21 a.m.

The validation flag for wikisource on wikidata is a manual switch, and none of the available external tools/toys are able to tweak it at this point of time. -- billinghurst ------ Original Message ------ From: "Gerard Meijssen" <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> To: "discussion list for Wikisource, the free library" <wikisource-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> Sent: 12/10/2017 5:14:15 PM Subject: Re: [Wikisource-l] Validated works on kowikisource?

Hoi, What does it take to get the validation-status in Wikidata. If anything it is the most important attribute. Knowing what people can read trumps everything. Thanks, GerardM On 12 October 2017 at 07:22, Sam Wilson <sam(a)samwilson.id.au> wrote:

Nope. The validation-status data is unlikely to ever be in Wikidata. The tool below gets this information from category-membership of Index pages. On Thu, 12 Oct 2017, at 01:18 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote:

Hoi, Is there a query in Wikidata for all the validated and complete books in Wikisource? Thanks, GerardM On 12 October 2017 at 06:14, Sam Wilson <sam(a)samwilson.id.au> wrote:

> No validated works found for ko The ws-cat-browser is saying it can't find any validated and categorized mainspace works on kowikisource. Is this correct? Is there any meant to be anything in the validated-index category? https://ko.wikisource.org/wiki/%EB%B6%84%EB%A5%98:%EA%B2%80%EC%A6%9D%EB%90%… <https://ko.wikisource.org/wiki/%EB%B6%84%EB%A5%98:%EA%B2%80%EC%A6%9D%EB%90%9C_%EC%83%89%EC%9D%B8> Thanks, Sam. _______________________________________________ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org <mailto:Wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l>

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Nicolas VIGNERON

7:23 a.m.

Hi, The validation-status data can and sometimes is stored in Wikidata. See how it is stored here : https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Badges and here an example of Wikidata query for all items about validated text : http://tinyurl.com/yaud3uoy Thad said, most of the times Wikidata is not up-to-date, and there should be a tool to take care of that instead of human being. Cdlt, ~nicolas

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Gerard Meijssen

8:31 a.m.

Hoi, Yes we need to have a better mechanism. However, there is nothing stopping us to publish all the books that are finished and ready to be read. That is the proof of the Wikisource pudding.. So is there a Wikidata query showing all the books that are finished and ready to read. With this we can advertise, having all books makes it complete. Knowing all books that are finished is secondary. Thanks, GerardM On 12 October 2017 at 09:23, Nicolas VIGNERON <vigneron.nicolas(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Hi, The validation-status data can and sometimes is stored in Wikidata. See how it is stored here : https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Badges and here an example of Wikidata query for all items about validated text : http://tinyurl.com/yaud3uoy Thad said, most of the times Wikidata is not up-to-date, and there should be a tool to take care of that instead of human being. Cdlt, ~nicolas _______________________________________________ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l

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Yongmin H.

8:41 a.m.

Can you divert that Wikidata stuff to other thread? I’m not sure if this is really related to ‘kowikisource’... -- Yongmin Sent from my iPhone https://wp.revi.blog Text licensed under CC BY ND 2.0 KR Please note that this address is list-only address and any non-mailing list mails will be treated as spam. Please use https://encrypt.to/0x947f156f16250de39788c3c35b625da5beff197a. 2017. 10. 12. 17:31, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> 작성:

Hoi, Yes we need to have a better mechanism. However, there is nothing stopping us to publish all the books that are finished and ready to be read. That is the proof of the Wikisource pudding.. So is there a Wikidata query showing all the books that are finished and ready to read. With this we can advertise, having all books makes it complete. Knowing all books that are finished is secondary. Thanks, GerardM

On 12 October 2017 at 09:23, Nicolas VIGNERON <vigneron.nicolas(a)gmail.com> wrote: Hi, The validation-status data can and sometimes is stored in Wikidata. See how it is stored here : https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Help:Badges and here an example of Wikidata query for all items about validated text : http://tinyurl.com/yaud3uoy Thad said, most of the times Wikidata is not up-to-date, and there should be a tool to take care of that instead of human being. Cdlt, ~nicolas _______________________________________________ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l

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