And if we're building DjVus for Commons from IA files (either PDFs or the Jpegs), should we also be adding those DjVus back to the IA item? (Actually, can we even edit IA items that we haven't created ourselves?) I'm figuring not doing so (but maybe adding a comment to the IA item that links to the DjVu on Commons).

On Mon, 2 Jan 2017, at 05:29 PM, Andrea Zanni wrote: Ideally, we should talk to IA about this. Adding a comment on the IA item is a very low-cost solution and I think is important, adding the djvu would be much better. We should check if a script can edit every kind of item and add files (I think not). Aubrey Yes, good idea about talking to them. I wonder about the workflow too, because what about the situation of someone uploading a new work with our tool: the script creates a new IA item then (I assume as the 'wikisource-import-tool' or whatever user) and then it will have full permissions over that item. So the update-DjVu scenario will only apply for IA items that already exist but which don't have DjVu files (i.e. only the last few months' worth). Which is good... —sam _______________________________________________ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l

Done :-)

Alex

2017-01-02 16:49 GMT+01:00 Alex Brollo <alex.brollo(a)gmail.com>om>:

I wonder if, rather than creating a new IA item, we should just link the original IA item to the DjVu on Commons (via a review)? Or is there a discoverability benefit to be had by having the DjVu also on IA? On Tue, 3 Jan 2017, at 07:07 AM, Sam Wilson wrote: Good idea. I guess it's not ideal to end up with two items, but at least the 2nd will be updateable from our end. It looks like we can add HTML links to IA reviews too, which is nice: https://archive.org/details/spinoza_etica_paravia On Mon, 2 Jan 2017, at 11:52 PM, Alex Brollo wrote: Done :-) Alex 2017-01-02 16:49 GMT+01:00 Alex Brollo &lt;alex.brollo(a)gmail.com&gt;om>: Please take a look to https://archive.org/details /spinoza_etica_paravia_djvu, this is precisely a djvu-only item that I uploaded some days ago. I asked for permission to create "djvu-only items" into IA forum and I got it; this is the fiirst item I created; as you see there's some "implicit convention" too (the name of item is the original one + a _djvu suffix: it has been derived from https://archive.org/details/spinoza_etica_paravia) and metadata are the same, but a standard warning "Derived from files into L'Etica <https://archive.org/details/spinoza_etica_paravia>" into the description field. So far I did not do the last step, t.i. adding a "backlink" from original item to the derived one. internetarchive.py allows to automatize the whole work (to download metadata of source item, to build the new item name and to add the warning do description field and to upload the new item). *_______________________________________________* Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l _______________________________________________ Wikisource-l mailing list Wikisource-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikisource-l

Very interesting. About djvu files on IA, they can be built simply by pdf2djvu from pdf files of IA, but quality is very poor;