Sorry, that was my fault, I didn't read the topic right, i thougt this discussion is still part of the topic  [Wikisource-l] Proofreading.

From my personal point of view, there is no difference between this pages. I see no need to distinguish empty und full pages. The final state means, all work needed is done with this page. 
In general I like statistiks, but never mind,  I would never count empty pages. 
On the other hand if others like to do, no problem in general. 
I think we will introduce this question to our community and we will make a decision. Changes can be done by bot, as I understand.

sincerly joergens.mi

2009/10/14 Birgitte SB <birgitte_sb@yahoo.com>
I sorry you find the concerns other people have to be "empty" and "silly".  Perhaps in the future you could ignore the threads on smaller issues without comment.  It would really help keep things more congenial.

Birgitte SB

--- On Wed, 10/14/09, Michael Jörgens <joergens.mic@googlemail.com> wrote:

> From: Michael Jörgens <joergens.mic@googlemail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Wikisource-l] Pages without text
> To: "discussion list for Wikisource, the free library" <wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
> Date: Wednesday, October 14, 2009, 12:15 PM
> Is there a need for this
> ''empty discussion'' about empty pages
> here, 
> The main point ist to find an for all acceptable
> way of working together with Thomas. In a way
> that Thomas is satisfied and feels comfortable,  taking the
> problems he see's into concern and the problems some
> projects have. 
> And it should be a compromise that all can accept,
> without feeling overruled by others.
> With this in the background the other discussion
> is simply silly.  Some are talking about some pages, which
> in total are below 1%, there are bigger issues to
> solve.
>
>
> sincerly joergens.mi
>
>
>
>
>
> 2009/10/14 Birgitte SB <birgitte_sb@yahoo.com>
>
> I
> disagree in general with the idea that everyone must
> conform.  There is room for the communities to develop
> their own solutions.  Hopefully when one community proves
> that some solution has good results others will learn from
> their experience and adopt it.  But there needs to be room
> for experimentation.
>
>
>
>
> In this specific case, it seems to me this is more of
> legacy issue on de.WS rather than a deliberate choice.  If
> they (as well as every other subdomains) conform to the
> standards the majority of Wikisources use then the
> comparative numbers between Wikisources will be more
> accurate.  I don't see a strong reason for de.WS
> deciding to not conform here.  But it is a bunch of tedious
> work and it should be thoroughly discussed.  It would be
> very nice if de.WS took the time to consider the issue and
> let us know what the consensus turns out to be.
>
>
>
>
> However we can always make a footnote when people choose to
> count things differently and estimate with data crunching.
>  (i.e. Of 1000 validated pages on the top three non-de.WS
> subdomains the average number of empty pages is X (A%),
> therefore an estimate of de.WS validated non-empty page is
> the given total minus the A% of the given total)  This is
> not an unsolvable issue and I am sure sooner of later some
> subdomain will discover a good reason to do something
> differently.
>
>
>
>
> Birgitte SB
>
>
>
> --- On Wed, 10/14/09, Syagrius <syagrius@gmx.fr>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > From: Syagrius <syagrius@gmx.fr>
>
> > Subject: Re: [Wikisource-l] Pages without text
>
> > To: "discussion list for Wikisource, the free
> library" <wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
>
> > Date: Wednesday, October 14, 2009, 10:47 AM
>
> > #yiv579852079 html, #yiv579852079
>
> > {}#yiv579852079 html
>
> >
> {width:100%;height:100%;margin:0px;padding:0px;}#yiv579852079
>
> > {font-size:100.01%;font-family:Verdana, Geneva,
> Arial,
>
> > Helvetica,
>
> >
> sans-serif;background-color:transparent;background-image:none;margin:0px;padding:5px;}#yiv579852079
>
> > p {margin:0px;padding:0px;}#yiv579852079
>
> > {font-size:12px;font-family:Verdana, Geneva, Arial,
>
> > Helvetica,
>
> > sans-serif;background-color:#FFFFFF;}#yiv579852079 p
>
> > {margin:0;padding:0;}#yiv579852079 blockquote
>
> >
> {padding-left:5px;margin-left:5px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-top:0px;}#yiv579852079
>
> > blockquote.quote {border-left:1px solid
>
> > #CCC;padding-left:5px;margin-left:5px;} If the
> Wikisources have adopted
>
> > some common rules, every sublanguage
> should follow it. On
>
> > the other hand, I don't understand why you
> don't
>
> > want to transform these empty pages, since en.ws
> and fr.ws
>
> > already did it and a bot could do it very easily.
> There
>
> > would be absolutely no loss of quality or
> credibility...
>
> >
>
> > Syagrius
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > ----- Message
>
> > d'origine -----De : John
>
> > VandenbergEnvoyés : 14.10.09 02:03À :
>
> > discussion list for Wikisource,       the free
>
> > libraryObjet : Re: [Wikisource-l] Pages without
>
> > text On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 10:12
> AM, Cecil
>
> >  wrote:
>
> > > Syagrius, could you please explain why this would
> be
>
> > "irrespectuous toward
>
> > > other wikisources" when we mark them as part
> of a
>
> > 'finished' project?
>
> >
>
> > It is not a part of the same work.
>
> >
>
> > Advertisements are a _different_ work, and it has not
> been
>
> > transcribed.
>
> >
>
> > It should be marked as a incomplete.
>
> >
>
> > Advertisements are also sources....
>
> >
>
> > http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Category:Advertisements
>
> >
>
> > :-)
>
> >
>
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