2010/10/26 Klaus Graf <klausgraf@googlemail.com>
Roma locuta causa finita.

I actually wrote this mail for understanding the issue,
and know where did you discuss these things before.
If you have links (like the one you gave me), I'd appreciate. 
(and, I'm not sure that the WMF can be ragerded as Roma: if someone sued you, and the WMF didn't care, the cause would not be finished at all)
 
There is no need to discuss things which have been discussed enough.
See above. I would like to have information and links to these discussion.
 
If you have another position feel free to make an own project in
Italia.
Obviously, this is not the case. 

The NPG affair has changed NOTHING.

Do you happen to know how that finished?
 
I am fairly sure that European law forbids copyrighting merely scans without originality. Italy has to respect this.

Do you have any reference? THAT would be helpful.


Aubrey

 
Klaus Graf

2010/10/26 Andrea Zanni <zanni.andrea84@gmail.com>:
> Thank you Klaus, I didn't know about that.
> But what about the "NPG affair"?
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Dcoetzee/NPG_legal_threat
>
> I know that scans are mechanical reproduction of texts,
> but I don't know all legislations could agree on this.
> I'm fairly sure that the Italian law guarantees 20 years of copyright to the
> creator of an "image" of any thing.
> It probably guarantees the copyright of even the trascription of a text (I
> interrogated a lawyer few years ago, he just confirmed the issue is unclear
> and everyone is interpretating the law as preferred... )
>
> Aubrey
>
>
> 2010/10/26 Klaus Graf <klausgraf@googlemail.com>
>>
>>
>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:When_to_use_the_PD-Art_tag#The_position_of_the_WMF
>>
>> Klaus Graf
>>
>> 2010/10/26 Andrea Zanni <zanni.andrea84@gmail.com>:
>> > Dear Wikisource community,
>> > I want to a ask a question that surely have been raised before.
>> > Unfortunately, I haven't find that in the archive of wikisource-l,
>> > so I will ask you.
>> >
>> > On what legal basis are we uploading Google Books (and Internet Archive,
>> > and
>> > Gallica) scans on Commons, putting the {{PD-Scan}} on those?
>> >
>> > I remember endless discussions in it.source about these issues, with
>> > contrasting opinions (both with reasons).
>> > For example, if we are able to upload from Gallica to Commons and then
>> > Wikisource, why the WM-Fr community
>> > did have to make an agreement with the BnF? Am I understanding this
>> > correctly? Was the material *donated*?
>> > I know the texts are PD, but also the images?
>> >
>> > I know this is a probably well known topic, I've just never read a
>> > definitive clarification on this issue.
>> > Thank you
>> >
>> > Aubrey
>> >
>> >
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