I'm not active at deWS anymore, so I think I can see this problem from the
distance by now.
How to you suppose a mediator should work if clearly one party is not
interested in doing even the smallest compromise.
The patch to make an optional parameter to switch on IP editing again was
suggested. This would have been a compromise.
You and several others claim that it is only the German community that wants
to allow IPs to proofread.
If that is the truth then there would be no danger in creating this optional
parameter. Only the German community would use and that month-long fight
would finally be done.
If it is not the truth then there would be something seriously wrong with
the way this all was handled by all who thinks it is just de.WS. But as all
of you think that it is just them ...
There were people willing to provide a working code for it so that ThomasV
just needs to fit it in. AFAIK there is already a first idea available which
just needs some work..
So I still not understand what the problem with the patch is. You guys
already don't consider the statistics by deWS correct anyway so the
statistics can't be a reason. The fighting would stop. And maybe seeing that
there are options this whole extension would look a bit more promising to
the majority of communities who don't use the extension at all.
Sorry, but some kind of principles (until now you always claimed that it was
a common community decision) are not a could enough reason for this kind of
fighting. If he wanted to program only for his principles than he is in the
wrong kind of project. AFAIK Wikimedia is still a project for the masses
(which would include IPs) or was that changed in the last few month? And
then he should never have suggested for other people to use it. Not wanting
to share is a typical behaviour of proprietary software and that if a
contradiction to everything these projects are about.
de.ws is already not respecting the system, because it
didn't marked the
empty pages as "Empty". fr.ws has 17000 empty pages, en.ws has 15000,
de.ws has 1000. I suppose that a great part of the missing 14000 or 15000
are marked as "Validated"... and de.ws has 54000 validated pages.
----- Message d'origine -----
De : ThomasV
Envoyés : 01.07.10 12:22
À : discussion list for Wikisource, the free library
Objet : Re: [Wikisource-l] [Wikitech-l] Wikisource bugs
* Thirdly, if the de.wikisource community decides, by vote or by
consensus, that they want IPs to be allowed to change the quality
status of pages, they can do this without destroying
ProofreadPage. They just need to step out of the ProofreadPage
quality system, and restore their previous system in place of it.
I am willing to explain how to do this to any technically skilled
person. Note that I already made the same proposal in bugzilla
8 months ago.
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