> Sorry, that was my fault, I didn't read
> the topic right, i thougt this discussion is still part of
> the topic [Wikisource-l]
> Proofreading.
>
> From
> my personal point of view, there is no difference between
> this pages. I see no need to distinguish empty und full
> pages. The final state means, all work needed is done with
> this page.
> In
> general I like statistiks, but never mind, I would never
> count empty pages.
> On
> the other hand if others like to do, no problem in
> general.
> I
> think we will introduce this question to our community and
> we will make a decision. Changes can be done by bot, as I
> understand.
>
>
> sincerly
> joergens.mi
> 2009/10/14 Birgitte SB <
birgitte_sb@yahoo.com>
>
> I sorry you find the concerns other people have to be
> "empty" and "silly". Perhaps in the
> future you could ignore the threads on smaller issues
> without comment. It would really help keep things more
> congenial.
>
>
>
>
> Birgitte SB
>
>
>
> --- On Wed, 10/14/09, Michael Jörgens <
joergens.mic@googlemail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > From: Michael Jörgens <
joergens.mic@googlemail.com>
>
> > Subject: Re: [Wikisource-l] Pages
> without text
>
> > To: "discussion list for Wikisource, the free
> library" <
wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
>
> > Date: Wednesday, October 14, 2009, 12:15 PM
>
> > Is there a need for
> this
>
> > ''empty discussion'' about empty
> pages
>
> > here,
>
> > The main point ist to find an for all acceptable
>
> > way of working together with Thomas. In a way
>
> > that Thomas is satisfied and feels comfortable,
> taking the
>
> > problems he see's into concern and the problems
> some
>
> > projects have.
>
> > And it should be a compromise that all can accept,
>
> > without feeling overruled by others.
>
> > With this in the background the other discussion
>
> > is simply silly. Some are talking about some pages,
> which
>
> > in total are below 1%, there are bigger issues to
>
> > solve.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > sincerly joergens.mi
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > 2009/10/14 Birgitte SB <
birgitte_sb@yahoo.com>
>
> >
>
> > I
>
> > disagree in general with the idea that everyone must
>
> > conform. There is room for the communities to
> develop
>
> > their own solutions. Hopefully when one community
> proves
>
> > that some solution has good results others will learn
> from
>
> > their experience and adopt it. But there needs to be
> room
>
> > for experimentation.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > In this specific case, it seems to me this is more of
>
> > legacy issue on de.WS rather than a deliberate choice.
> If
>
> > they (as well as every other subdomains) conform to
> the
>
> > standards the majority of Wikisources use then the
>
> > comparative numbers between Wikisources will be more
>
> > accurate. I don't see a strong reason for de.WS
>
> > deciding to not conform here. But it is a bunch of
> tedious
>
> > work and it should be thoroughly discussed. It would
> be
>
> > very nice if de.WS took the time to consider the issue
> and
>
> > let us know what the consensus turns out to be.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > However we can always make a footnote when people
> choose to
>
> > count things differently and estimate with data
> crunching.
>
> > (i.e. Of 1000 validated pages on the top three
> non-de.WS
>
> > subdomains the average number of empty pages is X
> (A%),
>
> > therefore an estimate of de.WS validated non-empty
> page is
>
> > the given total minus the A% of the given total)
> This is
>
> > not an unsolvable issue and I am sure sooner of later
> some
>
> > subdomain will discover a good reason to do something
>
> > differently.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Birgitte SB
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > --- On Wed, 10/14/09, Syagrius <
syagrius@gmx.fr>
>
> > wrote:
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > > From: Syagrius <
syagrius@gmx.fr>
>
> >
>
> > > Subject: Re: [Wikisource-l] Pages without text
>
> >
>
> > > To: "discussion list for Wikisource, the
> free
>
> > library" <
wikisource-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
>
> >
>
> > > Date: Wednesday, October 14, 2009, 10:47 AM
>
> >
>
> > > #yiv579852079 html, #yiv579852079
>
> >
>
> > > {}#yiv579852079 html
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
> {width:100%;height:100%;margin:0px;padding:0px;}#yiv579852079
>
> >
>
> > > {font-size:100.01%;font-family:Verdana, Geneva,
>
> > Arial,
>
> >
>
> > > Helvetica,
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
> sans-serif;background-color:transparent;background-image:none;margin:0px;padding:5px;}#yiv579852079
>
> >
>
> > > p {margin:0px;padding:0px;}#yiv579852079
>
> >
>
> > > {font-size:12px;font-family:Verdana, Geneva,
> Arial,
>
> >
>
> > > Helvetica,
>
> >
>
> > >
> sans-serif;background-color:#FFFFFF;}#yiv579852079 p
>
> >
>
> > > {margin:0;padding:0;}#yiv579852079 blockquote
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
> {padding-left:5px;margin-left:5px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-top:0px;}#yiv579852079
>
> >
>
> > > blockquote.quote {border-left:1px solid
>
> >
>
> > > #CCC;padding-left:5px;margin-left:5px;} If the
>
> > Wikisources have adopted
>
> >
>
> > > some common rules, every sublanguage
>
> > should follow it. On
>
> >
>
> > > the other hand, I don't understand why you
>
> > don't
>
> >
>
> > > want to transform these empty pages, since
en.ws
>
> > and
fr.ws
>
> >
>
> > > already did it and a bot could do it very
> easily.
>
> > There
>
> >
>
> > > would be absolutely no loss of quality or
>
> > credibility...
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > Syagrius
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > ----- Message
>
> >
>
> > > d'origine -----De : John
>
> >
>
> > > VandenbergEnvoyés : 14.10.09 02:03À :
>
> >
>
> > > discussion list for Wikisource, the
> free
>
> >
>
> > > libraryObjet : Re: [Wikisource-l] Pages without
>
> >
>
> > > text On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 10:12
>
> > AM, Cecil
>
> >
>
> > > wrote:
>
> >
>
> > > > Syagrius, could you please explain why this
> would
>
> > be
>
> >
>
> > > "irrespectuous toward
>
> >
>
> > > > other wikisources" when we mark them as
> part
>
> > of a
>
> >
>
> > > 'finished' project?
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > It is not a part of the same work.
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > Advertisements are a _different_ work, and it has
> not
>
> > been
>
> >
>
> > > transcribed.
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > It should be marked as a incomplete.
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > Advertisements are also sources....
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > >
http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Category:Advertisements
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > :-)
>
> >
>
> > >
>
> >
>
> > > --
>
> >
>
> > > John Vandenberg
>
> >
>
> > >
>
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