Though for Epubs we have our preferred alternative that we utilise through
Tpt's tool on toollabs for the epub version; well we do that at enWS.

I am more concerned by the PDF version loss of tables which are critical
for many works at the WSes, especially where they implement a ToC (front
and centre of many works) through a table.  It seems that we have a
WP-focused solution that disregards the WSes. There is a clear statement
the table issue will not be a priority to resolve. What is the urgency that
tables are not a concern? So we have to try and test this without something
in beta, and no knowledge of what is the issue with tables. Seems less than
satisfactory, and less than consultative.

Further the works are going to reproduced in two columns, and there is no
indication on how works with images will reproduce. Again it seems wholly
unsatisfactory that there is no capacity to view this as a beta function,
and it has to be done through a javascript hack. Why the lack of
resolution, why the lack of clear vision of what is an issue in
reproduction.

For the bulk of our users at enWS, they are clearly beta feature users,
rather than hackers of javascript files. The approach of javascript being
the testing methodology seems focused at only the technical capable, not
the broad spectrum of users.

Regards, Billinghurst

On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 3:56 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) <nemowiki@gmail.com> wrote:
:[
Please help recheck the old bugs listed at https://etherpad.wikimedia.org/p/BugTriage-mwlib, mostly filed by Wikisource/Wikibooks users.

Nemo

--------  Messaggio inoltrato --------
Oggetto: [Wikitech-ambassadors] Changes to PDF export; ZIM/EPUB will be disabled soon
Data: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 19:01:38 -0700
Mittente: Erik Moeller
Rispondi-a: Coordination of technology deployments across languages/projects

Hi folks,

A change from our legacy PDF export infrastructure to a more
maintainable system has been a long time coming. Thanks to the work of
C. Scott Ananian, Matt Walker, Max Semenik, Brad Jorsch, and the
Parsoid/Services teams, we're close to disabling the old PDF rendering
and enabling the new as default.

The old "mwlib" (Reportlab-based) PDF service will be disabled on
September 29 [1], and the new "ocg" (Parsoid/XeLaTex-based) PDF
service will be enabled on the same date. The output looks very
different (two column LaTeX-generated output) and there are a few more
customization options, as well (visible when you use the "Create a
book" feature). This renderer has much improved rendering of non-latin
scripts and fixes many issues of the old PDF service.

There are still a number of bugs to work through, as well, which we
will do as a low priority. Most noticeably, tables are a mess - and
since we have such a large variety of them, that's a pretty long tail.
This is not a high priority project for us. We're looking for
co-maintainers, and we have some ideas how to improve the architecture
to make it easy for the community to optimize for different outputs --
if you're interested in joining the development effort, let us know
via the new services list (
https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/services ), wikitech-l or
on #mediawiki-services on irc.freenode.net.

Please report any bugs against the "OCG" product in Bugzilla.
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=OCG

If you want to more quickly test prior to deployment, you can add this
one-liner to your common.js/global.js, which will point the "Download
as PDF" link in the sidebar to the new renderer:

$('#coll-download-as-rl a').each(function() { this.href =
this.href.replace(/([&?]writer=)rl(&|$)/g, "$1rdf2latex$2") });

As part of this change, we will disable ZIM and EPUB export for the
time being. If you're interested in working on ZIM or EPUB support for
the new offline content generator, or other export formats, please let
us know via the above channels.

Thanks,
Erik

[1] See https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Deployments for the
planned deployment window
--
Erik Möller
VP of Engineering and Product Development, Wikimedia Foundation

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