AubreyThere will another occasion for discussion, so feel free, again, to jump in at any time.Basically, I summarised what Asaf, David and I said.I tried to put some of the things we said on this page on Meta:Feel free to discuss them.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2017/Sources/Wikisource_Mailing_list_______________________________________________On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 12:10 PM, Andrea Zanni <zanni.andrea84@gmail.com> wrote:There are *no wrong answers*, and we still have few days to give our input before the first stage of this long process ends.Thus, I encourage you again to write here your dream about Wikimedia in 2030: what would you like to see? where would you like to be? In the Wikisource conference, we spoke a lot about language equity, community, tech. I'm sure you're full of ideas and vision.There is somewhat a general consensus on that, but as a Wikisource community I think it's *fundamental* to give our input, and push towards a Wikimedia that is *beyond Wikipedia*.Personally, I advocated and pushed for a more "olistic" approach: not just an encyclopedia, but a platform for accessing and creating knowledge, in whatever form.We had several sessions in which 200 people from all over the movement brainstormed and discussed freely about one single question: where do we want to be, in 2030.this year focused on Strategy.I would like to bring back the discussion to the Wikimedia Strategy (of course, you're free to fork this thread in several others: more discussions, the better ;-)Last week I participated in the Wikimedia Conference,Thanks!On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 1:03 AM, mathieu stumpf guntz <psychoslave@culture-libre.org> wrote:That's not goals for the end of fiscal years, but driving target, just like having a list of articles every Wikipedia should have. :)
Le 11/04/2017 à 16:36, ankry.wiki a écrit :
W dniu 2017-04-11 14:06:02 użytkownik Nicolas VIGNERON <vigneron.nicolas@gmail.com> napisał:
2017-04-11 13:17 GMT+02:00 David Starner <prosfilaes@gmail.com>:We do:
On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 2:46 AM ankry.wiki <ankry.wiki@onet.pl> wrote:Good question. We should store clearly this information somewhere (on
I doubt we can find 1000 works with PD translations into each WikisourceHow many Wikisources don't accept user translations? I'd guess that at least
language, including Latin and Sanskrit.
It would be hard to find 10. Mostly ancient.
Unlike Wikipedia, we present content that has already been created by somebody.
We are not creating that ourselves.
(except few ws accepting Wikisource translations)
half of them do.
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q19335648 and local pages ?).
https://wikisource.org/wiki/Wikisource:Subdomain_coordination
At least 4 do not allow translations.
most != all (Most Wikisource should have... != All Wikisource should have...)It may not be universal, but you'll never know how many of those worksactually have PD translations until you actually search for them. A list can
at least provoke the search.
Exactly.
I can easily find to 10 works in most languages of the planet (The Bible, the
Universal Declaration of Human Rights, Shakespeare, Conan Doyle, Dickens, Stevenson,
Verne, some important international treaty and publication from the Vatican ;
it's already a lot more than 10 works available in more than 100 languages)
Speaking of the UN, the UNESCO created the Index TranslationumI have intentionally chosen dead languages to point out that "all" should not
( http://www.unesco.org/xtrans/bsstatlist.aspx ) that can be helpful here.
Cdlt, ~nicolas
PS: Latin or Sanskrit are not the thoughest challenges, try Breton or Venetian
:P (by the way, the UDHR exist in these 4 languages and 500 more ;) only the
Bible has more translations).
be the goal.
Concerning, UDHR, we have unclear copyright status even for Polish translation:
it is not considered to be an official legal act, no "official" translation;
translated by a Foundation which say nothing about copyright. And even,
translations of foreign legal acts are considered copyrighted in Poland
(according to opinions we have).
Translation copyright problems may exist for many translations of Conan Doyle,
Dickens, Stevenson or Verne.
I also doubt we will get a Wikisource translation of "The Posthumous Papers of the
Pickwick Club" into eg. Lithuanian (while ltwikisource seems to be like
a single-user project - at least recently).
We can talk about 1000-100 "base" works in, maybe, 5-10 most active Wikisources.
Ankry
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