Simply there is no need to store data twice or more, if they are dinamically imported from wikidata. Such data would be simply generated by a normal template. Something similar to Commons media sharing: most wikipedians but beginners know that when you want to edit a shared media file, you must do you edit in Commons; there's no need to host a media file locally. 

So, IMHO a good Lua wikidata-reading library could avoid at all to store data in wikisource, or wikipedia, or Commons. 

Alex


2013/6/10 David Cuenca <dacuetu@gmail.com>
@Alex: but what do you think of storing the source information in "Index:" pages for all works stored in Wikisource, even if they don't have a supporting scan?

That was the original question :)

About your proposed library, it would be more useful if it could modify data in Wikidata, not only import it. Besides, if the Wikidata client is installed in Wikisource, the inclusion syntax already takes care of displaying data...

Micru


On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Alex Brollo <alex.brollo@gmail.com> wrote:
I don't see the need to change deeply Index/ns0 relationship, while I appreciate the idea "promote coherence reducing redundance" (many years ago I painfully used dBase III - dBase IV and I learned that principle by "try and learn").

Here: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension_talk:Scribunto/Brainstorming a brief message about relationship among wikidata, commons, wikisource and any other project. Don't follow the link, it's so short that I copy it here (but if you like it, comment it there):

Scribunto-Lua and Wikidata
I'd like a library to get Wikidata content; it would be a good idea IMHO to access to Wikidata data in plain form, just as such data would be Lua tables/variables. --Alex brollo (talk) 13:06, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

If such a Lua library could be built, to import data from wikidata would be as simple, as writing a template, and data will be self-aligned. 

Alex


2013/6/10 Aarti K. Dwivedi <ellydwivedi2093@gmail.com>

Hi,

    There was a thread some time ago where there were talks of having books which were born digital. These pages wouldn't have scans.
What the 'Index' page would have in these cases is something I am not very sure about.

Cheers,
Rtdwivedi


On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 10:47 PM, David Cuenca <dacuetu@gmail.com> wrote:
With the deployment of Wikidata it is a good moment to re-examine what "Index" pages are and what should be their function.
The most direct transition to a Wikidata-supported Wikisource could be something like this:
https://sites.google.com/site/dacuetu/BookData.pdf

That would allow:
- to share data book data between Commons, Wikisource and Wikipedia
- to update it, when any of the sites has been updated
- to facilitate better search functions (like searches by author, or topic, limiting the date range or the language)

That would only apply to those texts which use a "Index:" page, so now the question is, what do we do with books that do not have supporting scans (and therefore no index page)?

Some possible options:
a) ignore pages without sources and focus only on works with supporting scans
b) use ns0 pages also as data containers (instead of, or in addition to "Index" pages)
c) create "Index:" pages for all works, with or without scans. Use that instead of "Template:Textinfo"

Personally I prefer "option c", even if it would require to rename "Index:" to "Source:" to make more clear what are those pages, however I would like to hear the opinion of other wikisourcerors about this.

Cheers,
Micru

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