Anyway, Sam,
please continue the development of the Ws-search.
I just played with it a bit, but I find this to be an excellent tool for
1. importing data from WS to WD
2. *maintaining* WD up to date

Point 2 is important as point 1.

Maintenance is impossible if you can't do queries on WD or a system to "check" if your book is on WD or not.

Aubrey


On Thu, Nov 2, 2017 at 2:14 PM, Yann Forget <yannfo@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

Wikidata is a list of facts, so I don't see how any other license would be appropriate.
It is similar to copyright on patents and facts, as some commercial entities have tried to impose. I am obviously against that.
I am also against copyright restrictions for databases, as they existed in some countries, so I can't advocate puting one on Wikidata.
The objective, like the rest of Wikimedia, is allowing the widest possible use of knowledge. CC0 for Wikidata fits quite well with this objective.

Regards,

Yann

2017-11-01 14:39 GMT+01:00 mathieu stumpf guntz <psychoslave@culture-libre.org>:

Hey everyone,

I seize the opportunity of this planed import to make you aware that I started a project research on Wikiversity about Wikidata and its license :

https://fr.wikiversity.org/wiki/Recherche:La_licence_CC-0_de_Wikidata,_origine_du_choix,_enjeux,_et_prospections_sur_les_aspects_de_gouvernance_communautaire_et_d%E2%80%99%C3%A9quit%C3%A9_contributive

Admittedly, a driving force behind the launch of this project is an intuitive aversion against CC0, and the will of the Wikidata team to launch their lexicological solution with, without, or even against Wiktionary communities. But as intuition is never as useful as when feeding hypotheses of rational inquiry whose conclusions might reject it, I thought preferable to make such a research project so I could stand on a firmer vision of implications of this choice.

Also, whatever one might ethically feel about this topic is one thing, legal issues is a really different matter. So far, I have didn't found any evidence of a serious inquiry of letting people make mass import of data within Wikidata. But hopefully I'll soon be given links showing such an inquiry was indeed performed. Not requiring source and evidence of a free license covering imported data is a great way to put at risk of massive legal infraction, not only the Wikidata project, but anyone who reuse its data.

I welcome any source that you might judge valuable for the research project evoked above. That is anything speaking about how the license was chose, opinion of the community regarding this choice, ins and outs of the reuse ability, what notable partnership was ease or prevented due to the license, how external reusers do or do not give back through one form (better curated or enlarged set of data), or an other (technical advises, institutional promotion, funds…), and anything you think worth mentioning regarding Wikidata license. It would be kind to check it is not already in the list of sources I fetched so far, see https://fr.wikiversity.org/wiki/Recherche:La_licence_CC-0_de_Wikidata,_origine_du_choix,_enjeux,_et_prospections_sur_les_aspects_de_gouvernance_communautaire_et_d%E2%80%99%C3%A9quit%C3%A9_contributive/Wikidata_:_les_origines_du_choix_de_CC-0#Notes_et_r.C3.A9ferences

Also let me know if you would be interested with a translation. So far I'm writing it in my native language to hasten the draft outcome and I don't necessarily expect huge interest for the subject beyond myself. But if people show interest, or even would like to contribute, I can switch to Esperanto, or even the less likely demand of an English version. ;)

Inquirely,
psychoslave


Le 31/10/2017 à 16:14, Thomas Pellissier Tanon a écrit :
Hello Sam,

Thank you for this nice feature!

I have created a few months ago a prototype of Wikisource to Wikidata importation tool for the French Wikisource based on the schema.org annotation I have added to the main header template (I definitely think we should move from our custom microformat to this schema.org markup that could be much more structured). It's not yet ready but I plan to move it forward in the coming weeks. A beginning of frontend to add to your Wikidata common.js is here: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User:Tpt/ws2wd.js
We should probably find a way to merge the two projects.

Cheers,

Thomas

Le 31 oct. 2017 à 15:10, Nicolas VIGNERON <vigneron.nicolas@gmail.com> a écrit :

2017-10-31 13:16 GMT+01:00 Jane Darnell <jane023@gmail.com>:
Sorry, I am much more of a Wikidatan than a Wikisourcerer! I was referring to items like this one
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q21125368

No need to be sorry, that is actually a good question and this example is even better (I totally forgot this kind of case).

For now, this is probably better to deal with it by hands (and I'm not sure what this tools can even do for this).

Cdlt, ~nicolas
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