Re: [Wikiquality-l] Problem for Sighted/Examined with reviewed/stableicons

From: "R. S. Shaw" <shaww(a)inbox.com> Reply-To: Wikimedia Quality Discussions <wikiquality-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org> To: wikiquality-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikiquality-l] Problem for Sighted/Examined with reviewed/stableicons Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 13:25:35 -0800 Joerg wrote: The de.WP Sighted/Examined design has three states to be distinguished: * unrated * marked as Sighted * marked as Examined These states need to be visible in the Version History lists, etc. I initially thought the proposal to have 3 icons to represent unreviewed, reviewed, and stable states would work as a way showing the three WP.de states. Unfortunately, it seems they do not: To work, the states would have to correspond like this: * unreviewed = unrated * reviewed = marked as Sighted * stable = marked as Examined The problem with this is that since Sighted is defined to be "reviewed but not stable", no Sighted version will appear as the default revision of a page, that is, display of the current vandalized version will be preferred over display of the most recent Sighted version, as would an ancient Examined version. I believe this means the unreviewed/reviewed/stable icon idea will not work as is. I am getting the feeling that we should bite the bullet (in the American idiom) and recognize in the implementation that the "unvandalized" dimension is special, and should have certain special treatments. This is very much as applicable to en.WP as it is to de.WP. Even though en.WP may have more dimensions (depth, readability, etc) than does de.WP, the English WP still needs to rely heavily on the "unvandalized" characteristic to make the basic encyclopedia appear halfway reliable. "Unvandalized" might be special in these ways: (1) One can set it without setting any other dimension. (2) If set and no other rating is set, the "unvandalized" icon is displayed. (3) Perhaps, the right to set "Unvandalized" can be granted separately from other review rights. (4) Perhaps, a non-null setting in any other dimension requires or implies that "Unvandalized" is set. The more I think about it, the more it seems to me that the unvandalized attribute fits into the Wikipedia world in a way fairly different from other dimensions like size (stub, etc) and readability (Concise, etc). Thoughts on a treatment of Unvandalized in some way like this? -RS ____________________________________________________________ Inbox.com is giving away free iPODs, movie tickets and gigabytes! Learn more about this contest on http://www.inbox.com/contest _______________________________________________ Wikiquality-l mailing list Wikiquality-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikiquality-l