At no.wp we are running a system for patrolling, whereby a user marks a
revision as patrolled. This uses the old patrolling solution, and some
added roles. It works pretty well as a simplyfied flaggedrevs.
John
Luca de Alfaro skrev:
> By the way:
>
> It is easy for us to add a mechanism so that when one flags a revision
> in flaggedrevs, the trust of the revision increases, similarly (pehaps
> a bit less? we can discuss) as when there is an edit.
> Originally the difficulty in doing this was that someone could click
> on "sighted" a lot of times, thus increasing too much the trust of a
> revision -- additional clicks by the same author on the same revision
> should not cause additional trust.
> In the latest version of the code, this has been solved, as we keep
> track who has caused the trust of the text to raise, and we can
> discard duplicate clicks.
>
> So if there is concrete interest from a wiki that has flaggedrevs
> running, and wants to deploy wikitrust, we can make sure the two
> extensions work together well. The only reason we have not
> implemented this yet is that I wanted to know more about the concrete
> interest. Let me know!
>
> Luca
>
> On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 11:11 AM, mike.lifeguard
> > <mailto:john.erling.blad@jeb.no <mailto:john.erling.blad@jeb.no>>>> <mike.lifeguard@gmail.com <mailto:mike.lifeguard@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I agree - this is why I think using both an implicit method (trust
> colouring) *and* an explicit method (flaggedrevs) together will be
> best for
> small/slow projects like English Wikibooks etc.
>
> Mike
>
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> Subject: Re: [Wikiquality-l] WikiTrust v2 released: reputation and
> trustforyour wiki in real-time!
>
> Jusrt drop a note and I'll post a notice on our signpost.
> I think it is valuable as a clue as to whats going on in an
> article, but
> I also believe it will be circumstances where it might give a false
> impression of thrustwortyness.
> Lets see what people say if they have an example and can see for them
> selves! :D
> John
>
> Luca de Alfaro skrev:
> > I tend to think that this may not be a huge problem... but "the
> proof
> > is in the pudding": our server is now up and running, we are
> > experimenting with some wikis, why don't we try to color a dump
> of the
> > Norwegian wikipedia and see how the result looks like? I am sure it
> > won't be perfect, and the reasons you cite are the reasons why the
> > tool actually never displays people's reputation value (we don't
> want
> > visitors to read too much into it). But perhaps the tool will still
> > enable the easy visual detection of recent changes, and unvalidated
> > changes, and perhaps contributors will find this useful.
> >
> > I downloaded the latest dump I could find (June 2008), and I will
> > color it right away.
> > I am not sure we will install all the extensions required for it to
> > look pretty, and images may or may not work, so this will be a
> purely
> > experimental setting (all of these things would work if we
> colored the
> > real Norwegian Wikipedia, it's just that I am not sure I can
> find the
> > time in these days to install all required extensions). Still, it
> > will give you an idea.
> >
> > (I haven't implemented yet the code to bring up to date the trust of
> > long-unchanged pages; I will do it).
> >
> > Luca
> >
> >
> > 2008/8/31 John Erling Blad <john.erling.blad@jeb.no
> <mailto:john.erling.blad@jeb.no>
> >
> > At no.wp there are now questions about establishing thrust
> for users
> > within small or closed groups where it is no or very little
> knowledge
> > outside the group. Such situations will occur very rarely on
> > english, or
> > one of the other large wikis, yet it can occur very easily
> on smaller
> > communities. It can although happen on a wiki with a large
> > community if
> > the given area of knowledge is sufficiently small.
> >
> > An example is something like tetraploid salmon in fish farming
> > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fish_farming), where the english
> > community
> > might be able to check if this is meaningful and parhaps
> also the
> > norwegian community, irish community and chilean community,
> but what
> > about the polish community? Will they figure out the
> relations? Will a
> > editor writing about this gain correct trust? Note that the
> places are
> > known for salmon fish farming, someone in the polish community
> > might now
> > about this because there are fish farming in Poland - just not
> > with salmon.
> >
> > I believe the system in the mean will produce valuable
> > information, but
> > it will not be very accurate without additional measures.
> >
> > John
> >
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