Re: [Wikiquality-l] Implicit vs Explicit metadata

Flagged Revisions and Article Trust are really apples and oranges. I have contacted them, and let them know I'd be interested in getting this up into a stable extension; they are not in competetion. Anyway, my problem with that article about implicit vs. explicit metadata is that a)it assumes any random user can rate, b)you are measuring simple things like interesting/cool/worth reading, and c) you don't care too much if bad content shows sometimes. The problem is that none of these hold true here. Flagged Revisions uses Editors/Reviewers, it mainly checks accuracy, and we don't want high profile pages/living people articles/highly vandalized pages as well as eventually anything to show up with vandalism. Going to "George Bush" and seeing a vulva for the infobox is not ever acceptable (I don't even know if Article Trust rates images), even if the vandalism is darker orange or whatever. The Article Trust code looks at the page authors. To a large extent, this quite good at highlighting the more dubious stuff. On the other hand, things become less orange with new edits (since it is less likely to be crap). The downside is that cruft and garbage can get less orange and appear more valid. This can easily happen with large articles and section editing. That makes this it very hard to use for quality versions. Flagged Revisions would be better at that. Vandalism can take days to clean up. If AT is to be selecting the best revision, it should trying to check both global average trust of each revision as well as it's worst parts. This way it could try to pick a revision with no "highly dubious" parts. Having looked at the article trust site, I'd have a very hard time demarking what the maximum untrustworthyness a section can have would be wihout being under or over inclusive. I'd go with underinclusive. It does seems reasonably doable at least. It has the advantage of being fully automatic, so there will be a huge number of articles with a "most trusted" (for lack of a better name) version. It won't necessarily be stable, and could be quite outdated though. In fact, even people who would otherwise have Editor (basic review) rights would have their changes go to the trusted version on edit. This would eat too much away at editing incentive if the "most trusted" version was the default if even experienced users could not directly control it. So to sum up. Having a link to the "automatically selected most trustworthy" version seems plausible, as long as it is not the default. It has the advantage of leading to a burst of pages with "trusted" versions without adding any real workload whatsoever. The AT team would have to whip up and test around with some algorithms though. -Aaron Schulz ---------------------------------------- _________________________________________________________________ Put your friends on the big screen with Windows Vista® + Windows Live™. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/shop/specialoffers.mspx?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_CPC…