Er, I don’t think this is true (or I don’t understand what you are saying). Check out the
book ”Basic Care of Experimental Animals” in Hathi versus Google Books. Closed in Google
Books, open in Hathi. It was digitized in the Google Books library partners project.
I was responding the request below, that Wikipedians get access to collections that should
be available but aren’t in Google Books. Hathi is an avenue for getting to at least some
of those texts.
If you are saying you can’t download the public domain corpus and have it on your hard
drive, then yes I think that is true of Hathi but I didn’t think that was what we were
discussing.
Merrilee Proffitt, Senior Program Officer
OCLC Research
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My understanding in speaking with Jeremy York at HathiTrust several months ago is that
*even* public domain content is subject to additional restrictions by the uploading
institutions and therefore wouldn't be available to us either. That only leaves the OA
collection, which is separate and already accessible.
Jake
On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 11:29 AM Proffitt,Merrilee
<proffitm@oclc.org<mailto:proffitm@oclc.org>> wrote:
Use the HathiTrust. This works for books scanned through libraries (via Google and also
Microsoft/Internet Archive, which was a smaller project but one which targeted out of
copyright books) and deposited in HathiTrust, which isn’t everything but attempt to do a
more nuanced job with out of copyright materials than Google currently does (Hathi has
been working to check copyright renewals for the 1923 to 196x period and also clears gov
docs, which Google does not do).
http://www.hathitrust.org/
Merrilee
Merrilee Proffitt, Senior Program Officer
OCLC Research
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Perhaps a more attainable goal would be for Wikipedians to gain access to books NOT UNDER
COPYRIGHT that Google has scanned and restricted. Pretty much everything 1922 and earlier
they have been good about making public (1908 and earlier for the UK) but there are a vast
number of titles which are copyright clear for this reason or that for the 1923 to 1973
period that they have hidden behind "snippet view." There is absolutely no
plausible copyright reason for them acting thus and that case might be made much more
easily than a dubious appeal to release files of copyrighted materials because Wikipedians
are on the side of the angels.
Just a thought.
Tim Davenport
Corvallis, OR
"Carrite" on WP
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