Dear WPL colleagues,

Thank you for responding to my query about making approaches to Academia.edu. I really appreciate having sensible advice. Your feedback indicates caution, and raises the possibility that there may be little to be gained from an arrangement with them; I will go ahead and make queries, especially about the legal side and the user agreement as would relate to WPL access, but shall make no commitments. I'll bring their response back to the list for consideration.

Regards,
James

James McArdle
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Just a hint.

Being a payable article does not mean that it is not open access.

My own experience is that some journals when submitting your article will put a"time frame" for the article. For example 6 years, after that the author can share the article unrestricted. So some authors upload thier articles to academia.edu.
Also there is now awealth of open access journals and of open access articles in non-open access journals.

Regards,
Ahmed Shawky Mohammedin
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Hi,

In relation to Open Access papers, I'm wondering if WPL has had dealings with Academia.edu? (I'm new to WPL). Their website makes available papers across all disciplines by current academics who are subscribed. 

Outsiders can see a few recommended articles, but there is a wealth of material hidden from them. I have contacts there as I am one of their recommending editors. 

Can you tell me from your experience, is it worthwhile exploring whether of access can be provided to,or via, WPL for our users? 
Regards,
James

James McArdle





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Interesting question, James.

Academia.edu serves millions as a personal repository for their academic
preprints (usually legal) and published versions (often not so) - the
question is, do we dare risk such when institutional depositories with
vetting of allowable content are readily available?

As an experiment, [[Academia.edu]] article has a cited reference to
paywalled content (footnote #11 as of today) to which I've appended a link
to the preprint version of the article on academia.edu, noting "/*
Reception */ + "Academia.edu preprint" (with differing  pagination from
canonical published version; other editorial changes likely) of Thelwall &
Kousha (2012)".

Per Academia.edu's voluminous [https://www.academia.edu/terms terms of
use], such "Member Content" is severely restricted.

Would be interested in gaining access to site content, if TWL can negotiate
- or learn to live with - latter.

Paul S. Wilson
Research Coordinator
The Wikipedia Library