Thanks!_______________________________________________2015-05-19 19:02 GMT+02:00 Dan Brickley <danbri@google.com>:On 19 May 2015 at 17:56, Anders Feder <anders.feder.83@gmail.com> wrote:
> I figured you had already explored that area :) I sadly do not know anyone
> at Google, but noticed the prominent googler Dan Brickley (danbri) is
> subscribed to this list. If this message isn't buried in your mailbox, can
> you help, Dan?
I was following the thread with interest, as it happens. I have had
only limited contact with the Google Books team since I joined Google,
so I may not be the best contact. But anyway I'll pass
https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikipedia-library/2015-May/000012.html
along. As already noted here, the project is in quite a complex
situation but that's no reason not to ask...
cheers,
Dan
> Regards,
> Anders Feder
>
> 2015-05-19 18:41 GMT+02:00 Jake Orlowitz <jorlowitz@gmail.com>:
>>
>> Hi Anders,
>>
>> Thanks for you suggestion. I can assure you that [increased] Google Books
>> access has been our dream from the start. It's very complicated because of
>> the contentious legal situation that surrounded the massive scanning and
>> limited sharing Google has been doing. Because of that, we haven't
>> prioritized increased access, however we haven't given up on the possibility
>> of it one day happening. One thing that would be helpful is a personal
>> contact with someone at Google who works on the Books program. If you know
>> of any Google-connected Wikipedians, please put us in touch.
>>
>> Jake Orlowitz
>> Lead, The Wikipedia Library
>> User:Ocaasi
>>
>> On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 6:31 AM Anders Feder <anders.feder.83@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have a little idea that could be really helpful for Wikipedians if it
>>> could be implemented. Google has scanned in a vast collection of books. Some
>>> of these scanned pages can be read online via Google Books, and serves an
>>> important resource for Wikipedians confirming the verifiability of text
>>> added to Wikipedia. However, many of the scanned pages can not be read: in
>>> some cases only an arbitrary selection of pages in a given book can be read,
>>> which may not be the ones need; in other cases, pages can not be read at all
>>> or they can only be searched in the severely limited "Snippet View".
>>>
>>> Now, there are good reasons why this is the case. The books copyrighted,
>>> and the rightsholders do not want to give their most important goods away
>>> for free to anyone on the internet. However, given Google's support for
>>> Wikipedia, and for the open dissemination of knowledge, could Wikipedia
>>> Library perhaps approach Google and request a much more limited arrangement,
>>> like the ones it has with various journals?
>>>
>>> Full access to all books in the Google Books Library Project would be
>>> utopic. But even a limited deal where a short range of pages can be
>>> requested for each book would be extremely helpful, because page numbers are
>>> specified countless references on Wikipedia via the {{cite book}} template -
>>> we just do not have a way to easily get those pages. Yet.
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Anders Feder
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