No, it wasn't directed at you and Susning.nu, it doesn't match because
as you said Susning has fewer articles than the Swedish Wikipedia, and
it doesn't share any articles.
But the part that does match is about you bragging (though to be fair,
you don't do it often). Simply describing that you are involved with
this project and that it has done so much, or whatever, is fine with
me and is most certainly not bragging. HOWEVER,, some of the comments
you have directed at me in other threads are definitely bragging. (if
you don't know which comments I'm talking about, I'll be happy to
point them out)
Mark
On 10/06/05, Lars Aronsson <lars(a)aronsson.se> wrote:
Mark Williamson wrote:
If they're so innocent, why would they be
hurt by "half-sung songs"?
Come on, Mark. Part of your description matches myself and my
website susning.nu, a big non-English wiki. Some readers might
believe that you are pointing at me, and conclude that the other
information is some kind of truth about me. That hurts me. If
you really believe what you wrote, then I'm here to clarify any
misunderstandings and answer your questions. If you mean someone
else, you will save me a lot of trouble by saying so.
Perhaps you mean Erik Möller and his infoAnarchy? Perhaps you
mean Jimbo Wales and his Wikicities?
I'll assume the worst, and clarify your points as if they were
relating to me. As far as I know, you don't speak Swedish and are
not a contributor to the Swedish Wikipedia, and so it disturbs me
to learn that you might have such strong and possibly damaging
opinions about me. Who gave you these impressions? Should you be
more careful with trusting your sources?
> > I was thinking of another non-English
semifork of Wikipedia
Susning.nu has never been a fork (or "semifork", whatever that is)
of Wikipedia. It is a big Swedish wiki that I started from
scratch after Larry Sanger made it clear that what I wanted to do
would fall outside of Wikipedia's strictly encyclopedic scope. Not
a single text has been copied or translated from Wikipedia to
Susning.nu. If that happened, it would be a copyright violation
(unless the author dual licensed the text), since susning.nu does
not enforce the GFDL license like Wikipedia does. In many cases,
susning.nu contributors have later copied their own texts to the
Swedish Wikipedia, which of course is perfectly OK.
> > which has way more articles than the
Wikipedia version, and
This could be said a year ago, but today Susning.nu has 58,400
articles, while the Swedish Wikipedia has 80,600.
> > whose owner is deeply involved in
Wikipedia but while
I'm not "deeply involved" in Wikipedia. I'm an occasional
contributor (user:LA2), but I've never been and have never aspired
to be an administrator, bureaucrat, board member or developer of
Wikipedia. On the contrary, I've been extremely careful to point
out the difference between the two projects, and kept myself at
arm's length distance from anything Wikipedia. I've never
participated in any vote or opinion poll on how to run the
project.
> > bragging in private e-mails and on-list
about how much work
> > he/she does compared to others to put more free content
> > online,
Back in 1992, I started Project Runeberg (
runeberg.org), the
Scandinavian e-text project, which possibly was the first "clone"
of Project Gutenberg. In the more than 12 years since, quite a lot
of out-of-copyright literature has been digitized there, including
several old encyclopedias. Much of this has benefited the Swedish,
Danish, and Finnish Wikipedia. No description of who I am would
be complete without mentioning this. I've spent more hours on
Project Runeberg than on any job or hobby I've ever had.
> > does not consider allowing the
corresponding language
> > version of Wikipedia to share content.
I'm contributing *some* of my texts and photos to Wikipedia, but
that's not to say that everything I write or do is released for
free. Especially, the texts that I wrote for susning.nu are under
my copyright without open licensing. What others do with their
texts on susning.nu is their decision, and the site does not force
contributors to use any particular license. In practice, this
makes mirroring of the entire site impossible, and that is a
deliberate choice; I don't believe in website mirroring. I've
also written texts and software for other purposes and customers.
These texts belong to me or my customers and the copyright holders
decide what or how to license them.
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