Hey Adam, Thanks for the help and kinds words - these are all very good and important questions. As for types of articles, I (myself as a writer/contributor to the AS wiki) would like to start out with simple fact-based articles, perhaps the ones listed on the "100 articles every wiki should have." I would hope that people would contribute articles, either Pokemon, Mario, News, Biography, whatever. I have no doubt someone will want to write Anglo-Saxon related articles, but I'd rather do modern history, some biographies, biology, technology, etc. If you'd like to write the Pokemon article, feel free! Ic wille þæt séon, gif þu þæt wille wrítan. There are people who can contribute readily on the Forum for Old English mailing list, English-L mailing list, and Old English Made Easy mailing list. The form of the language would be early West Saxon, as used in the Clark Hall Concise Anglo-Saxon Dictionary, without the syncopation of endings in verbs (a more formal syntactic convention). The groups are above mentioned, as well as other groups that can be found with a google search. There is already a terminology page for the technology terms, as well as many biology and other terms native to the language. As Icelandic has created new uses for old words, I'm sure Old English can do the same (How about an article about a circulwyrde or the symantec fyrweall rungestreon, or þá Nipponiscan léode (the Japanese people)?). Does that help? James -----Original Message----- From: wikipedia-l-bounces(a)Wikimedia.org [mailto:wikipedia-l-bounces@Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Adam Bishop Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 5:22 PM To: wikipedia-l(a)Wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] Re: FW: Wikipedia for Old English I think an Old English Wikipedia sounds interesting (although I don't know very much OE myself), and now that you are also discussing Latin, I wanted to point out a few problems you might encounter (I am an admin on the Latin Wikipedia): Most importantly, you should start off by making some guidelines about what should and should not be included. The Latin wikipedia is pretty old and only recently has there been a concerted effort to give it some direction - I think any new wikipedia in a dead language would benefit from having the rules first. For example, you would (I assume) want to have articles about Anglo-Saxon related topics, but will people also want to write about unrelated subjects? Will the stereotypical Pokemon article be allowed? What form of the language will you use? For Latin, I think we try to be as classical as possible, although there is some medieval and neo-Latin there too. As far as I understand, the 9th century Wessex dialect is the most attested form of Anglo-Saxon, right? Would you accept alternate spelling/grammar found in other dialects (Northumbrian, perhaps)? (As a side note, you would probably also want to specifically state that Old English is not the same as "ye olde English", nor is it Chaucerian or Shakespearian English, as has been mentioned already.) Are there groups who still use Old English, from whom you can draw either contributors or information on where to begin? Is there any information on how to use OE words for modern concepts? For Latin it is fairly easy to find Neo-Latin terms, but what if you want to write about Japan, for example, in OE? I guess my point is, can OE still be used in a meaningful way, or will you be limited by existing vocabulary? I hope these questions/suggestions help, and I hope I can contribute when it is created! Adam Bishop >From: Pierre Abbat <phma(a)phma.hn.org> >Reply-To: wikipedia-l(a)Wikimedia.org >To: wikipedia-l(a)Wikimedia.org >Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] Re: FW: Wikipedia for Old English >Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2004 15:40:55 -0400 > >On Thursday 05 August 2004 10:48, Karl Eichwalder wrote: > > "James R. Johnson" <modean52(a)comcast.net> writes: > > > I guess it's like Latin in being a dead language, but just as > > > deserving of a Wiki. > > > > Encyclopedia writer should try to get the facts right before posting. > > Latin is still in use (and it was never dead). And, more important, > > Latin something like a sleeping lingua franca. > >"Dead" referring to a language means "having no native speakers". Unlike Manx, >which died with its last native speaker (but is still in use), Latin died >(but remained in use) when its descendants differentiated sufficiently that >none of them was Latin, which can't be pinpointed as precisely. > >phma >-- >li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa >_______________________________________________ >Wikipedia-l mailing list >Wikipedia-l(a)Wikimedia.org >http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l _________________________________________________________________ Designer Mail isn't just fun to send, it's fun to receive. Use special stationery, fonts and colors. http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-ca&page=byoa/prem&xAPID=1994&D… p://hotmail.com/enca&HL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines Start enjoying all the benefits of MSN® Premium right now and get the first two months FREE*. _______________________________________________ Wikipedia-l mailing list Wikipedia-l(a)Wikimedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l