Morally wrong? Fiscally wrong? Professionally wrong? Be more verbose in your damnations, Fred. -S- --- Fred Bauder <fredbaud(a)ctelco.net> wrote: http://www.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com

Hmm. I agree. But what about those who are limited in terms of their coverage, and yet still are "more qualified than most" to be candidates? Inbetweeners if you will. I guess Im thinking of it more as a sick wikipublicity stunt, TBH (apologies) -- I dont care either way, I do think there should be a full list of candidates here, though. Thanks, Fred -S- http://www.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com

the Canterbury Hm. I disagree. The California Gubernatorial Recall Election is a genuine circus -- thus having amusement value for the entire world. -S- __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . till we *) . . . Richard wrote: I'd say there is a difference between the local level ("Canterbury Regional Council", "Indian electoral districts", "Orange County School Board") and the sub-national state level ("England", "States of India", "California"). These difference is especially visible in the significance to the rest of the world. __ . / / / / ... Till Westermayer - till we *) . . . mailto:till@tillwe.de . www.westermayer.de/till/ . icq 320393072 . Habsburgerstr. 82 . 79104 Freiburg . 0761 55697152 . 0160 96619179 . . . . .

Delirium wrote: The true "empirical evidence" for Wikipedia would be the access log. The obvious plan is only to print the most visited articles. But some times the most visited articles can be obscure topics that draw visitors through Google just because they aren't covered anywhere else on the web. People who google for, say, "Seattle" or "Paris" will find thousands of other websites. One of the most visited pages on susning.nu is the name of a Swedish governmental agency that changed its name a couple of years ago. People are googling for the old name and get a hit nowhere else than on susning.nu, where they can learn that the agency has changed its name and a link to its current website. This page serves its purpose, but doesn't really fit in the classic definition of an encyclopedia. -- Lars Aronsson (lars(a)aronsson.se) Aronsson Datateknik - http://aronsson.se/

Richard Grevers wrote: Well, one reason is that it's a recall election, not a normal election, which is somewhat unusual in non-parliamentary systems. Secondly, Arnold Schwarzenegger is running an apparently serious campaign, which makes people take notice. If, say, David Hasselhof were running a serious campaign for a state governorship in Germany, it'd probably make the US papers too. -Mark

On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 16:06:36 -0700 (PDT), Brion Vibber <vibber(a)aludra.usc.edu> gave utterance to the following: I would expect us to cover it, but not with 200 articles on individual candidates. (Well, you wouldn't get that in NZ because you vote for a party whose leader would become PM if they can form a government, but we have about 30 political parties on our voting form - 7 of whom are currently represented.) -- Richard Grevers I'm not lost - I'm directionally challenged

Richard Grevers wrote: I think that there is a "market" for some of this oddball information. The media circus only adds flavour of the event. Each US state has its own rules to determine the length of term of office for state officials, often even with some logic to the matter. The current events in California are irregular in that it first involves an attempt to recall the current governor, Gray Davis, from office in the middle of his term. This way the California process won't be upstaged by any similar events in other states. (I'm sorry but the states of India with the same reverance in the mind of the average American, even if there are more West Bengalis than Californians.) Californians will receive two ballots on October 7. In the first they will be asked if Gray Davis is to keep his job; that matter can be decided by a simple majority of votes cast. If he does keep his job the second vote will be moot. The real fun begins in the very likely possibility that Californians shoose to give him the boot. The winner will be the top vote getter in a list of 135 candidates who have bought lottery tickets. In theory the winner could be governor with the support of less than 1% of the voters... which then means very much less than 1% of Californians. The laughter is being shared by citizens of the other states equally with those of other countries, and perhaps wryly even with some good-humoured Californians. Ec

Tomasz Wegrzanowski wrote: It's not the concept of recall that provokes laughter; it's the way the Californians have turned it into a circus. Ray

Steve Vertigo wrote: I have no problem with listing all 135. The rest of us can have fun at California's expense. :-) It may be difficult to find enough material to create a biographical blurb or comment about every one of them. I like the idea that there is at least one grown-up among them; Mary "Mary Carey" Cook lists herself as an adult film actress. ;-) Will she do as well as the sumo wrestler? On a slightly more serious vein, how can an appropriate branch of Wikimedia present a truly independent view of any election anywhere in the world? Ec