On Sunday 02 February 2003 12:56 am, Brion Vibber wrote:
The browser still must check with the server to see if the page has changed, but if it hasn't the browser's cached version can be shown, saving a lot of database sorting, wikitext parsing, link checking, and bandwidth. If it has changed, you get the new version.
Everything is much faster now and that is great! But one minor annoyance is that (at least with Konqueror 3.0.3) the New Messages message doesn't seem to trigger the 'changed page' flag so Konqi dutifully displays the cached version of a page instead of updating the page to display the new dynamic content. No biggie though.
BTW, would it be possible to have the top header area be a different HTML frame so that each frame can be dealt with separately? Then the content of the page could be cached /server side/ after it is requested by an anon (or a user with default settings) and served-up for anons and users with default settings until a change is made to the page. Then the next anon/default user accessing the page causes all the queries that are needed to render the new page and then that page version is cached and made available to the next anon/default user to view... The only thing that would be dynamic for anons and default users would be the top frame (since it displays their IP/user name and the 'new messages' link - but that could be cached client side so long as the display of 'new messages' and changes in login status tells the browser that that frame has changed). Just some thoughts - do with them as you see fit.
--mav
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I was having a problem with new content not being updated when I backspace back to a previous page last night. I don't know if it's still happening, I'll see soon. And I just wanted to let Brion know that I'm not hitting Refresh while the User contributions page is being accesed, it's only once I've gotten the "Page cannot be displayed" page. I'm using IE 6.0. Zoe Daniel Mayer maveric149@yahoo.com wrote:On Sunday 02 February 2003 12:56 am, Brion Vibber wrote:
The browser still must check with the server to see if the page has changed, but if it hasn't the browser's cached version can be shown, saving a lot of database sorting, wikitext parsing, link checking, and bandwidth. If it has changed, you get the new version.
Everything is much faster now and that is great! But one minor annoyance is that (at least with Konqueror 3.0.3) the New Messages message doesn't seem to trigger the 'changed page' flag so Konqi dutifully displays the cached version of a page instead of updating the page to display the new dynamic content. No biggie though.
BTW, would it be possible to have the top header area be a different HTML frame so that each frame can be dealt with separately? Then the content of the page could be cached /server side/ after it is requested by an anon (or a user with default settings) and served-up for anons and users with default settings until a change is made to the page. Then the next anon/default user accessing the page causes all the queries that are needed to render the new page and then that page version is cached and made available to the next anon/default user to view... The only thing that would be dynamic for anons and default users would be the top frame (since it displays their IP/user name and the 'new messages' link - but that could be cached client side so long as the display of 'new messages' and changes in login status tells the browser that that frame has changed). Just some thoughts - do with them as you see fit.
--mav
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On dim, 2003-02-02 at 15:28, Zoe wrote:
And I just wanted to let Brion know that I'm not hitting Refresh while the User contributions page is being accesed, it's only once I've gotten the "Page cannot be displayed" page.
I've managed to speed up the contribs display so that shouldn't be a problem anymore. (But if it is, holler.)
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
Um, well, now Wikipedia is completely unaccessible. Zoe Brion Vibber brion@pobox.com wrote:On dim, 2003-02-02 at 15:28, Zoe wrote:
And I just wanted to let Brion know that I'm not hitting Refresh while the User contributions page is being accesed, it's only once I've gotten the "Page cannot be displayed" page.
I've managed to speed up the contribs display so that shouldn't be a problem anymore. (But if it is, holler.)
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
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