...speaking of which, capitalisation is a problem on Wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/list_of_languages will give you a page different from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Languages or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_Of_languages or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LIST_OF_LANGUAGES The arguement against removing capitalisation sensitivity is in my opinion a very weak one: the number of cases for which it serves as a natural disambiguation is very very small, and even in those cases somebody might use capitals or not use capitals and inadvertently end up at the wrong article. I think we need to get rid of case sensitivity once and for all. Mark On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 17:27:41 +0100, Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> wrote: >Muke Tever wrote: > > > >>Sabine Cretella <sabine_cretella(a)yahoo.it> wrote: >> >> >> >>>Who contributes simply takes the words he is "moving" (working on) off >>>the list - the admins have enough work with deleting all the re-directs >>>(or is there a way to do this automatically) maybe modifying the page >>>and writing "to be deleted" instead of the re-direct? >>> >>> >>Why delete the redirects? You'll break all the old pages on the web >>that link >>to Wiktionary articles. >> >>You'll have to think of other wikimedia sites too. For example >>en.wikipedia's >>"link to Wiktionary" template currently just uses {{PAGENAME}}, which >>will always >>be capitalized, because Wikipedia capitalizes all topics it treats. >> >> >> *Muke! >> >> >Hoi, >You delete the redirects because they are plain wrong. A word that has >has both a capitalised version and a non capitalised version will be >split into two versions. The usage of wikipedia's link to Wiktionary >currently does indeed use PAGENAME, how do you know that it still refers >to the correct version of the word ?? You do not ! So it needs to be >changed as PAGENAME is not good enough. > >It is feasible to change the PAGENAME to something else for instance a >genuine parameter that is either capitalised or not. I think it would be >feasible to have a bot check the occrurence of the old template and >change it for a capitalised or an uncapitalised REAL parameter. So >practically all the instances of the current template need to be changed >anyway. > >The decision of the capitalisation on en:wiktionary has been made, now >it is necessary to plan a good conversion plan. It will hurt and it will >be a lot of work. Extra painfull is the fact that the en:wiktionary did >not agree to change the first time round because MANY new words have >been added in the mean time. I think it is better to suffer a bit and do >a good job than to do an incomplete job and not remove the pain. > >One other reason why you want to change the current wiktionary content >is because you will not add redirects for all the new words that will be >added in the future. > >Thanks, > GerardM >

...speaking of which, capitalisation is a problem on Wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/list_of_languages will give you a page different from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Languages or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_Of_languages or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LIST_OF_LANGUAGES The arguement against removing capitalisation sensitivity is in my opinion a very weak one: the number of cases for which it serves as a natural disambiguation is very very small, and even in those cases somebody might use capitals or not use capitals and inadvertently end up at the wrong article. I think we need to get rid of case sensitivity once and for all.