On 10/31/05, Walter van Kalken <walter(a)vankalken.net> wrote:
Han Dao wrote:
We should not sink to the low level that the
teenage crackers dude. Hacking
is not ethical.
I would agree with you on that. But what is currently happening and what
some forces in China are doing is not ethical either. I am not saying we
should do these things ourselves, nor do I want to encourage anybody to
do this. I do say though that there is no reason why we can not have a
good smirk at this :) , we are literally being ****ed over by a
dictatorial system which is striving for total mindcontrol of its
China is not a dictatorial system, and you'd be hard pressed to find
anyone knowledgeable about it that would describe it as so.
Authoritarian, socio-captialist, schizophrenic, but hardly
dictatorial. Though it is annoying to be without the "complete"
Internet in the PRC, total mindcontrol is an exaggeration.
somthing the Thaksin administration is copying in
currently, and we are doing nothing about it really so yes I hate
hacking, but oen the other hand it is great to see some resistance. And
I would love to know what is written there.
Some of it talked of shameless copying from Wikipedia, others posted
the proxy information on how to reach the real Wikipedia, etc. As for
Thaksin, I think Berlusconi is perhaps a better analogy.
I personally have the feeling that the Chinese govt or
in the mainland are responsible for this should be made to loose face
about this issue by now. We have been polite with them many times. It
Depends on what value of "didn't work." ZH has been blocked less than
6 weeks total, over the last four years.
I personally feel that we should make this an about
issue. So I personally call on the board to start taking this issue to a
Give it at least as long as the longest previous block (19 days), and
a bigger stink can be raised then. Chinese Internet users have learned
to take it in stride, using the opportunity to probe the limits of
content. There are other alternatives as well, like a mirror of ZH on
servers internal to the PRC.