2012/10/26 John Jackson <strangetruther(a)gmail.com>om>:
Thanks for reading and thoughtful comments. Should I try to send to
wikien-1 or wikimedia-1? Haven't joined. Don't know if I can.
It's wikien-L and wikimedia-L; "l" as in "List", not as in
The first one is about the English Wikipedia and the second one is
about the general Wikimedia movement, and very frequently about
Wikipedia in general.
You can find link to both of them here:
And yes, of course you can join. The Wikimedia movement tries to be
open to everybody, and that includes its critics, as long as they are
As a bit of personal advice, I have to say something brutally honest:
The problem of amateurs/experts dynamics in Wikipedia is one that I
care quite strongly about, and I would really like to see productive
discussion about it. However, threats of retiring or deleting own
contributions never help move such discussion forward. As much as I
understand the feeling, expressing it this way simply doesn't work.
Again, it's a pattern that repeated itself with academics from USA,
Portugal, Israel, Russia and other countries, and from fields as
diverse as Political Science, Education and Engineering. It would be
much more useful to understand the current policies and practices, to
try to identify particular flaws in them and to propose constructive