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Andre Engels

14 Aug 2002 14 Aug '02

11:34 p.m.

My apologies to maveric and you all. Like everywhere, I seem to break more than I heal. Please remove my moderator access, and block my site for 7 days while I think about whether it has any use that I am helping you. I'm an idiot, and you don't need idiots. Sorry again. Andre Engels

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Jimmy Wales

14 Aug 14 Aug

11:05 p.m.

Andre Engels wrote:

I'm an idiot, and you don't need idiots. Sorry again.

Hey, I'm an idiot too, so I hope we need idiots or I'll get tossed away with last night's beer cans. :-) I didn't see what happened, but Andre's o.k. with me. --Jimbo

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Andre Engels

15 Aug 15 Aug

12:25 a.m.

Andre Engels wrote:

I'm an idiot, and you don't need idiots. Sorry again.

Hey, I'm an idiot too, so I hope we need idiots or I'll get tossed away with last night's beer cans. :-) I didn't see what happened, but Andre's o.k. with me.

What happened was that I deleted a whole lot of pages, giving as the reason that they were at the same time: 1. orphans 2. stubs or dictionary-style entries I will not apologize, not because I'm not sorry, but because I already did. Regarding the offer to help undoing things: Although my deletions may have been better not made, they also as someone said "did not do much damage". Undoing them will undoubtedly be more trouble than it's worth. Writing some good, or even mediocre, Wikipedia article on random subjects will probably do more good to Wikipedia with less work. Andre Engels

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Karen AKA Kajikit

3:10 a.m.

Andre Engels wrote:

What happened was that I deleted a whole lot of pages, giving as the reason that they were at the same time: 1. orphans 2. stubs or dictionary-style entries I will not apologize, not because I'm not sorry, but because I already did. Regarding the offer to help undoing things: Although my deletions may have been better not made, they also as someone said "did not do much damage". Undoing them will undoubtedly be more trouble than it's worth. Writing some good, or even mediocre, Wikipedia article on random subjects will probably do more good to Wikipedia with less work.

Andre, I seem to delete more pages than just about anyone else... and a whole bunch of them are ones that you recommended for removal previously. Anyway, a couple of people got annoyed with me not because I was deleting too much stuff but because I wasn't attributing them thorougly enough for their liking. I don't know what you've been removing because it was the middle of the night here and I was asleep, but if they were only orphan stubs then I really don't see what the fuss is all about... -- Karen AKA Kajikit And on the seventh day, God said 'What my world needs is a creature that will truly appreciate it in all its facets' - and so He made the kitten. Come and visit my part of the web: Kajikit's Corner: http://Kajikit.netfirms.com/ Aussie Support Mailing List: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AussieSupport Allergyfree Eating Recipe Swap: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Allergyfree_Eating Ample Aussies Mailing List: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ampleaussies/ Love and huggles to all!

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Karen AKA Kajikit

3:45 a.m.

further to that... looking at the deletion log I don't see anything 'wrong' with anything you deleted. I think people were just alarmed at the sudden large volume of removals. -- Karen AKA Kajikit And on the seventh day, God said 'What my world needs is a creature that will truly appreciate it in all its facets' - and so He made the kitten. Come and visit my part of the web: Kajikit's Corner: http://Kajikit.netfirms.com/ Aussie Support Mailing List: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AussieSupport Allergyfree Eating Recipe Swap: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Allergyfree_Eating Ample Aussies Mailing List: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ampleaussies/ Love and huggles to all!

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Andre Engels

14 Aug 14 Aug

11:47 p.m.

Please disregard my last message. I was overreacting and doing things I already regret. My deletions were an error, and I ask you to forgive me and try to understand that I did what I thought was best. I am still too tensed at the moment, but I will be back tomorrow or in a few days, doing normal things with Wikipedia. I still think that the majority of the deletions were a good thing, but I also think that I was wrong in doing them without checking whether they were supported. Apparently the common opinion on this point is different, and I not only should bow to that, I want to do it. My apologies for any inconvenience caused, Hoping that I have been able to write coherently in my current state, Andre Engels

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Stephen Gilbert

15 Aug 15 Aug

5:42 a.m.

Andre, it sounds like you made an honest mistake. So, take a few deep breaths and relax. No one is out to lynch you. Besides, this is just more evidence for the case that the absolute delete function does more harm than good. :) Stephen G. --- Andre Engels <engels(a)uni-koblenz.de> wrote:

Please disregard my last message. I was overreacting and doing things I already regret. My deletions were an error, and I ask you to forgive me and try to understand that I did what I thought was best. I am still too tensed at the moment, but I will be back tomorrow or in a few days, doing normal things with Wikipedia. I still think that the majority of the deletions were a good thing, but I also think that I was wrong in doing them without checking whether they were supported. Apparently the common opinion on this point is different, and I not only should bow to that, I want to do it. My apologies for any inconvenience caused, Hoping that I have been able to write coherently in my current state, Andre Engels [Wikipedia-l] To manage your subscription to this list, please go here: http://www.nupedia.com/mailman/listinfo/wikipedia-l

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