On sab, 2002-04-20 at 22:16, Daniel Lee Mayer wrote:
On Saturday I blocked 220.127.116.11 after this person
deleted content from at
least three Islam related articles ([[Qur'an]], [[Dialect]], & [[Muslim
(See notes in [[Wikipedia talk:Blocked IPs]] for more details.)
It would be nice if I could have stated my reason why
as part of the blocking
process and for [[wikipedia:Blocked IPs]] to show up in Recent Changes with
my explanation automatically in an edit comment.
Agreed, I was going to add that feature but didn't finish it. I'll get
I really don't think the current seemingly
hush-hush setup will alleviate
fears in some that a secretive cabal has taken over the 'pedia. I know that
this is not the case and not the intention of the current setup, but others
We should be completely open with everything we do and the software needs to
be tweaked to make this natural and easy. There should also be a notice on
[[wikipedia:Blocked IPs]] telling the world just how long an IP is blocked
The time the ban was made appears in the list. Unfortunately, it appears
as the number of seconds since January 1, 1970. :)
That's already fixed in the development version.
and there should eventually be the ability for other
sysops to undue an IP
ban if a mistake has been made.
All sysops can un-ban people simply by editing [[wikipedia:Banned IPs]]
and removing the address in question from the list. Maybe this should be
stated in a message at the top of the page?
On a related front: Is it possible to block the IP of
a logged in user? There
is nothing stopping a vandal from logging in and doing harm. Although I am
not aware of any logged in user actually performing a systematic assault on
articles there have been several logged in users uploading copyrighted or
No, not at this time. Blocks will (I think) apply to anyone, whether
they *subsequently* log in or not, but if they're logged in while they
do their initial dirty work there's no way to ban them (short of having
Jimbo comb through the server logs to find their IP address) because the
IP won't be recorded in the database, just the username.
BTW it also would be nice to be able to more easily
track what these vandals
have done so that the other damage these people have probably done can be
fixed. Otherwise many of the less obvious changes these people have made will
be obscured by someone else editing a vandalized article in order to improve
it -- thus removing their IP/user name from Recent Changes. Could
"contributions of xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" automatically be generated and placed on
[[wikipedia:Blocked IPs]] when xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is blocked?
Yeah, that's easy to do. I'll add it if there's no objection.
As soon as we decide what to do with these issues in
general this discussion
should be switched to the developer mailing list to work out the details.
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com