Axel wrote: We can try to cooperate, but I got the distinct feeling from reading their about page at : http://enciclopedia.us.es/wiki.phtml?title=Enciclopedia+Libre+Universal+en+… that they /really/ don't like us. This especially seems true for the English Wikipedia where there is/are (and I roughly quote); article censorship and fear of censorship, where administrators harass contributors and delete pages (stated in a way that suggests this is a form of excessive censorship), and where those same administrators block pages from being edited (again suggesting that this is some kind of unfair censorship). They also seem to not like the fact that a "American for-profit .com company that wants to establish a presence in the educational market* controls Wikipedia (the .com part may be a directed toward wikipedia's URL and not Bomis - my Spanish is rusty and the fish ain't much help). All I can say is that they sure have a twisted sense of how things really are. giskart wrote: I agree. It is certainly possible to have amicable forks where an entire language wiki moves to a different server and its software is maintained by different developers. However, I think that in the long term the two wikiware code-bases will eventually become incompatible and cross-linking and any other future inter-lingua stuff will soon stop working. Hopefully this type of interfunctionality will convince more and more Spanish speakers to contribute to es.wikipedia.com than to enciclopedia.us.es. Jimbo wrote: I now agree completely. I vote for keeping es.wikipedia.com, load the new software and then run the two projects side-by-side for at least a few months. If activity doesn't improve much /then/ and only then should we even consider closing the Spanish Wikipedia. We above all else must respect those that still contribute to our Spanish wiki. Besides as someone already said, we can port the EL stuff to our wiki since they use the same license (<hint> I will help with this myself as soon as Lee's excellent new software gets installed </hint> --- but please don't ask me to help with the translations; its been so long since I've used it that my written Spanish is down-right embarrassing). -- Daniel Mayer (aka mav)