Mirwin, it's not that complicated.
It's Larry using his Nupedia email account. Larry is
no longer employed by Bomis. He thinks you're a troll.
He is informing you of his personal opinion. That's
If you're feeling out-gunned by Larry's mail account,
you can get mirwin(a)nupedia.com if you register at
. Then you can reply to Larry with the
backing you! What fun!
-- "Michael R. Irwin" <mri_icboise(a)surfbest.net>
Toby Bartels wrote:
mirwin wrote in part:
>Is this an unknown "troll" attempting to fan the
>local controversy or is this actually Mr.
old account at Bomis?
I always thought that it was silly when people put
disclaimers in their sig:
"The views expressed are mine alone and not
of my ISP.".
I mean, who would ever think that an entity was
supporting a view
just because it appeared after the @ in an
or in a Received: header?
But perhaps these disclaimers are necessary after
A lot of people use mail accounts for both business
personal purposes. Sometimes clarification of the
role in which they are acting or who they are
is useful. Sometimes it is customary and a matter
Sometimes it is mandatory.
Mr. Sanger used to be employed fulltime by Bomis and
a lead role in the early establishment of Wikipedia
"founder" and as an "editor-in-chief". I have the
various email reviewed and events witnessed upon
and meta.wikipedia that he also got drawn
the role of a community "enforcer".
Mr. Wales has now stepped into an "enforcer" role by
as the owner since Mr. Sanger left fulltime
employment with Bomis.
This is documented in various places on
and the archives of this mailing list.
It would be useful to me to know what role the
Mr. Sanger's Nupedia account to send private
emails thinks they are acting in and that person's
If it is Mr. Sanger then his credibility and
diminished with me and perhaps with the community,
now that I have
chosen to publish it to the mailing list. If it is
not Mr. Sanger,
then there may be an issue of security or integrity
within the Bomis workforce or the within the
community which has access
to the Bomis network beyond sending email through
the list servers.
Have other people participating at Wikipedia, and
obviously, encountered this type of behavior from
email account? Was the behavior encouraged by
of the community to drive off unpopular people or
To summarize some of the issues:
Does Mr. Sanger think he has the widespread
support of the Wikipedia community in attempting to
or is this merely personal recreation?
Is this actually Mr. Sanger or is it someone
discredit him and/or the Wikipedia community?
Is this a misguided attempt to drive off an
or questions rather than address them via the
If a security breach is in progress (someone unknown
into Mr. Sanger's account and used it without regard
(or with malicious
intent) for Bomis, Nupedia, Wikipedia and Mr.
Sanger's reputation and
credibility) has it been initiated by someone within
the community or
an external agent?
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