Perhaps the most important thing of all would be license
compatibility. They say that they will have a "free license" -- it it is GNU FDL, that's great. If it's something else, well, things can get very complicated as far as reuse goes. <<
In the month of February we will finalize the license issues, probably GNU FDL will be chosed.
When it comes to copyright, the real problem is not going to be with
people who put copyrighted material into an on-line encyclopedia. That's easily removed as soon as it's recognized. It's going to be with people who try to claim personal copyrights on openly licensed or even public domain material. <<
Public domain material is by definition uncopyrighted. People can not, by definition, claim personal copyrights on public domain materials. At best, they can argue whether a certain material is in public domain or not.
Personal copyrights on openly licensed material is not something new. If I create a material and publish it under the GNU FDL license, I still have copyright on it and I'm free to distribute it under any other license that I choose to. People will be able to use my material according to the GNU FDL, or select the alternative licenses that I offer to them.
This is the way the Mozilla project ( http://mozilla.org ) works, by allowing their code to be distributed both under GPL and MPL licenses.
There is a copyright notice on the bottom of each page. <<
That will be debated in the month of February, like specified above. Right now, it means that anybody contributing to the Open-site project agrees to its distribution license, while still retaining the copyright of their submissions. The words "Open-site" refer in that particular instance to the Open-site contributors.
The Internet community can use content in the Open-site project according to its license (probably GNU GPL), but authors of the original content can still use the material at their discretion.
They are younger project, and I see nothing in there about how they
would handle such issues as NPOV and vandalism. <<
Senior editors at the project have discretion regarding editorial account removal.
Thanks, Vlad.
vladd wrote:
When it comes to copyright, the real problem is not going to be with
people who put copyrighted material into an on-line encyclopedia. That's easily removed as soon as it's recognized. It's going to be with people who try to claim personal copyrights on openly licensed or even public domain material. <<
Public domain material is by definition uncopyrighted. People can not, by definition, claim personal copyrights on public domain materials. At best, they can argue whether a certain material is in public domain or not.
Personal copyrights on openly licensed material is not something new. If I create a material and publish it under the GNU FDL license, I still have copyright on it and I'm free to distribute it under any other license that I choose to. People will be able to use my material according to the GNU FDL, or select the alternative licenses that I offer to them.
The problem is not that simple. Under US law as it now stands copyright lasts for 95 years, and that's plenty of time for lots of mischief. A lot of material gets published now with a copyright notice. Such an item may be a very long unattributed extract from a public domain source (perhaps fromWikipedia or Open-site or an obscure old book) preceded by one paragraph of original introductory material. The copyright notice doesn't make any distinction between what is original and copied material. Ten years later, when somebody uses a significant portion of that article (not from the introduction) the person who first copied it claims copyright violation. The difficulty is not with the theoretical rights that anybody has; from our vantage point these are quite clear. It is with proof, and who is in a position to defend material that is in the public domain or under GNU-FDL license from wrongful claims of copyright. Stretch that process out over a 95 year period, and the prospects are boggling!
Eclecticology
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Ray Saintonge wrote:
It is with proof, and who is in a position to defend material that is in the public domain or under GNU-FDL license from wrongful claims of copyright. Stretch that process out over a 95 year period, and the prospects are boggling!
Prospects schmospects -- the size the old article revision database is going to be in 2096, now *that's* mind-boggling!
3 gigabytes in the first two years; and it's not been a linear increase... We're gonna need a bigger hard drive by then. I hope Jimbo can arrange it. ;)
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
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