All I'm getting annoyed at the plethora of "Usenet" style discussions happening all over the place. Not so much that they are happening (I think this is unavoidable) but that there is no organisation in place to accommodate it. To distinguish between the Wikipedia (as an information resource) and the "Community involved in an encyclopaedia project" I would like to propose the creation of five pages (some already exist): Wikipedia Policy Wikipedia Commentary Wikipedia Community Wikipedia Discussion Wikipedia Utilities Each of these can have numerous sub-pages. Many pages which are floating around as distinct entries can be re-classified under these five headings. This will also discourage people from creating "meta-pages" as distinct encyclopaedia headings (eg. my own creation - [[Page titles to be deleted]]) Wikipedia Policy /Neutral point of view /To delete or not delete /Permanent deletion of pages /Wiki administrators /(etc) Wikipedia Commentary This page should be restored to its original intent - the publishing of editorial articles, free of the constraints of NPOV. Wikipedia Community /Wikipedians (and associated existing subpages) /Wikipediholic /Wikipedia-L /other pages related to the community of editors, public notices not relevant to the reader community, etc. Wikipedia Discussion /all the pages related to discussing the evolution of Wikipedia... I know Larry is against this idea in principle, but face it - it will always happen. At least this way it is centralised and we will only shit in a small corner of the nest, as opposed to everywhere now. Wikipedia Utilities /page titles to be deleted /personal subpages to be deleted /statistics /friends of Wikipedia /(etc) ***************** Manning Bartlett Senior Business Intelligence Consultant EMC Global Pty Ltd Sydney Australia