Yes, that's where I was found guilty of having an "orientation", and an Arbitrator condoned the use of incivility with Ad hominems against me. Again, no examples of improper editing. But if you have an indefinite ban, you are not allowed to appeal for a year. In other words, IF you are banned improperly, but indefinitely, there is no way back for at least a year. Regards, Ian Tresman www.plasma-universe.com