Peter Gervai wrote: I don't really see the problem with typing embed codes manually on, for example, the English Wikipedia. I presume the vast majority of the text will be in English (that is the language, after all), with only a very few words and phrases not in English (Greek or Chinese or etc. versions of foreign place names). It shouldn't be *too* much of a hassle to type those few phrases with embed codes. Actually, I think with the current setup, on en: at least, you can type them literally and when you hit submit or preview it'll automatically convert them to the numeric codes. I seem to recall this happening with some Greek text I pasted in (though I could be mistaken). -Mark

On Tue, Nov 18, 2003 at 02:49:12PM -0800, Delirium wrote: Try to type greek, chinese phrases this way. Go on, try. See any chinese related articles, see the name there (don't cheat, don't edit the article), and type its embed codes in your favourite editor. I'd like to know how many percentage do you guess chinese characters right by just looking at them. :-) May I put bets on you? ;-> Yes, you are pretty wrong here. Some browsers actually change those codes to embeds (like Mozilla), which is *illegal*. There is not guarantee at the time of the POST that the server wants _HTML_ (or anyway else) encoded text, so the browser do a _wild_guess_, and pick the most used encoding. Other browsers' authors say that they conform standards and are not willing to make wild, baseless guesses, and they do not submit illegal characters to a POST where the encoding type does not support it. Anyone may debate that but I see no basis to force anyone not to follow the standards. (And not every browsers do it this way. Some does it the other way, submitting anything they like, and php and mysql and other underlying crap changes it to god knows what, and the article changes the next time someone edits it, and nobody going to be able to tell why did it happen. It's fun. :)) grin

On Wed, Nov 19, 2003 at 12:02:00PM +0100, Till Westermayer wrote: Preferably (de)activated by a user preference item. (It's pretty hard to edit with embeds, and it's useless for a modern browser.) Apart from my comment: Good idea! grin