Message: 7 Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 14:11:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Daniel Mayer maveric149@yahoo.com Subject: [Wikipedia-l] Re: logo To: wikipedia-l@Wikipedia.org Message-ID: 20030828211146.52979.qmail@web12802.mail.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Anthere wrote:
Erik, I find 7 days to be a very short time (again, not to insist too much, but school has not restarted yet, many people are still on holidays, sorry Mav :-)). Is there a special reason you chose such a short time ?
Either Europeans take too many holidays or Americans don't take enough of them. :-) Either way, 7 days is not enough.
--mav
Dare I add something ?
Perhaps you guys know that some european countries are suffering economical troubles right now. Among which Germany and France. We are old nations, and in spite of my peers trying to make three babies instead of two, we will have problems financing...hum...our parents retirements (ours, likely, will not exist at all :-)
It is my understanding Germany suggested an off day be removed, which could bring some immediate money from working revenues for one day among 365 days. It is also my understanding that german people accepted that.
Now, our crazy politicians have decided to import the same thing in France and to "steal" one of our beautiful off-day in may (may is a very pleasurable month). One guy even suggested removing two. Grrrrr.
Debate is upon the day which will be removed. Either it is a catholic celebration day Or it is the WWII commemoration day
I wonder which one would be best...
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On Thu, Aug 28, 2003 at 05:09:51PM -0700, Anthere wrote:
It is my understanding Germany suggested an off day be removed, which could bring some immediate money from working revenues for one day among 365 days. It is also my understanding that german people accepted that.
From what I've heard, they haven't removed a single day off yet,
and they're not very likely to.
Neither does removing days off seem likely in Poland.
Not that it would help any - places in Europe with more days off (like Bavaria) aren't any worse than those with fewer.
Anthere wrote:
Message: 7 Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 14:11:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Daniel Mayer maveric149@yahoo.com Subject: [Wikipedia-l] Re: logo To: wikipedia-l@Wikipedia.org Message-ID: 20030828211146.52979.qmail@web12802.mail.yahoo.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Anthere wrote:
Erik, I find 7 days to be a very short time (again, not to insist too much, but school has not restarted yet, many people are still on holidays, sorry Mav :-)). Is there a special reason you chose such a short time ?
Either Europeans take too many holidays or Americans don't take enough of them. :-) Either way, 7 days is not enough.
--mav
Dare I add something ?
Perhaps you guys know that some european countries are suffering economical troubles right now. Among which Germany and France. We are old nations, and in spite of my peers trying to make three babies instead of two, we will have problems financing...hum...our parents retirements (ours, likely, will not exist at all :-)
It is my understanding Germany suggested an off day be removed, which could bring some immediate money from working revenues for one day among 365 days. It is also my understanding that german people accepted that.
Now, our crazy politicians have decided to import the same thing in France and to "steal" one of our beautiful off-day in may (may is a very pleasurable month). One guy even suggested removing two. Grrrrr.
Debate is upon the day which will be removed. Either it is a catholic celebration day Or it is the WWII commemoration day
I wonder which one would be best...
I'm glad to hear that the workers' day on May 1 is not up for consideration. My understanding was it was always an agreement between the political left and right that it was to their mutual benefit to support each other's holidays. If you have to abandon one, I guess it will have to be the WWII day.
Generally the longer standard European six week holiday makes more sense, as does the reduction of the work week in France. I do think that with the longer vacation period combined with the shorter work week makes individual feast days less important.. The American social safety net has a long way to go before it can catch up with Europe.
Ec
Anthere wrote:
It is my understanding Germany suggested an off day be removed, which could bring some immediate money from working revenues for one day among 365 days. It is also my understanding that german people accepted that.
Not fully correct :-) Some years ago a holiday was actually removed, the protestantic "Buss- und Bettag", in order to finance an additional insurance for older people requiring medical care (the "Pflegeversicherung"). It has been suggested to do the same again to help financing the retirement insurance, however that did so far stay as only guesswork.
Bye, Andy
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