If there's consensus that we want a mascot, I suggest putting a call for suggestions on all the mainpages, with a link to an English page on Meta. That might seem like overkill, but I really think we should use the wiki process here. There are many species -- prehistoric animals, insects, animals living only in a single, small world region -- which are largely unknown, yet unbelievably photogenic. I also think that any mascot we choose should reflect the fact that we are a cooperative, social project, in other words, it should be a social animal or insect. Dolphins, whales, ants, bees etc. all work nicely. Of course, we could also choose a monkey sitting behind a typewriter ;-)
With a cooperative process, who knows what we might come up with.
This is also, like the logo, a case where we eventually need to set up a vote, period.
Regards,
Erik
On ĵaŭ, 2003-02-20 at 21:08, Erik Moeller wrote:
I also think that any mascot we choose should reflect the fact that we are a cooperative, social project, in other words, it should be a social animal or insect.
Wikipedia is a virus -- it infects every cell of your being and hijacks your mental processes to reproduce itself. ;)
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Well, if we want cooperatives, how about coral? Zoe Erik Moeller erik_moeller@gmx.de wrote:If there's consensus that we want a mascot, I suggest putting a call for suggestions on all the mainpages, with a link to an English page on Meta. That might seem like overkill, but I really think we should use the wiki process here. There are many species -- prehistoric animals, insects, animals living only in a single, small world region -- which are largely unknown, yet unbelievably photogenic. I also think that any mascot we choose should reflect the fact that we are a cooperative, social project, in other words, it should be a social animal or insect. Dolphins, whales, ants, bees etc. all work nicely. Of course, we could also choose a monkey sitting behind a typewriter ;-)
With a cooperative process, who knows what we might come up with.
This is also, like the logo, a case where we eventually need to set up a vote, period.
Regards,
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On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 06:08:00AM +0100, Erik Moeller wrote:
This is also, like the logo, a case where we eventually need to set up a vote, period.
It is? If so, it should certainly be a vote among sysops, since a "public" vote would have far too fuzzy a constituency.
Dangerous. As a sysop I would definitely be voting for the monkey behind the typewriter option....
rgds
Steve
Quoting Jason Williams jason@jasonandali.org.uk:
On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 06:08:00AM +0100, Erik Moeller wrote:
This is also, like the logo, a case where we eventually need to set up a vote, period.
It is? If so, it should certainly be a vote among sysops, since a "public" vote would have far too fuzzy a constituency.
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--- Jason Williams jason@jasonandali.org.uk wrote:
On Fri, Feb 21, 2003 at 06:08:00AM +0100, Erik Moeller wrote:
This is also, like the logo, a case where we
eventually need to set up a
vote, period.
It is? If so, it should certainly be a vote among sysops, since a "public" vote would have far too fuzzy a constituency.
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yup And what about only one vote given to each langage ? With veto option of course :-)
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On 21 Feb 2003 at 6:08, Erik Moeller wrote:
I also think that any mascot we choose should reflect the fact that we are a cooperative, social project, in other words, it should be a social animal or insect. Dolphins, whales, ants, bees etc. all work nicely.
Leming (or rather a herd of lemings)
Youandme
--- Youandme wikipedia@wp.pl wrote:
On 21 Feb 2003 at 6:08, Erik Moeller wrote:
I also think that any mascot we choose should reflect
the fact that we are a
cooperative, social project, in other words, it
should be a social
animal or insect. Dolphins, whales, ants, bees
etc. all work nicely.
Leming (or rather a herd of lemings)
Youandme
ants would be perfect
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On 21 Feb 2003 at 4:29, Anthere wrote:
ants would be perfect
Other people noticed that they are perfect too. See http://ant.apache.org/ and their logo
Youandme
--- Youandme wikipedia@wp.pl wrote:
On 21 Feb 2003 at 4:29, Anthere wrote:
ants would be perfect
Other people noticed that they are perfect too. See http://ant.apache.org/ and their logo
Youandme
Crumbs, too late...
What about a threatened flower then ? :-)
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From: "Anthere" anthere6@yahoo.com
ants would be perfect
Other people noticed that they are perfect too. See http://ant.apache.org/ and their logo Youandme
Crumbs, too late... What about a threatened flower then ? :-)
"Let all the pretty flowers bloom" - Mao
Hmmm, why not a centi- or millipede! Lots of feet, like "pedia" for feet! Lots of collaboration...
Since, Jay B.
Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] Wikipedia mascot
Hmmm, why not a centi- or millipede! Lots of feet, like "pedia" for feet! Lots of collaboration...
Hey, what about calling it a "Wikipede"! Lots of legs all pulling forward to good progress. Whatcha think?
I can just imagine a java applet that makes a "Wikipede" walk across your screen when you visit the link to it's wiki-entry page :-)))
Well, maybe not, but what do you think of this centi- / millipede called the "Wikipede"???
Cheers, Jay B.
Subject: [Wikipedia-l] The Wikipede
A [[centipede]] is described as: an arthropod having a cylindrical '''body''' composed of many segments each having a '''pair''' of '''legs'''.
A Wikipede logo could have a centipede or millipede walking and making the shape of a W
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Jay B.
"Jay Bowks" jjbowks@adam.cheshire.net writes:
Hey, what about calling it a "Wikipede"! Lots of legs all pulling forward to good progress. Whatcha think?
mhm, the name is nice. maybe something like this?
greetings, elian
At 12:45 AM 2/22/03 +0100, you wrote:
"Jay Bowks" jjbowks@adam.cheshire.net writes:
Hey, what about calling it a "Wikipede"! Lots of legs all pulling forward to good progress. Whatcha think?
mhm, the name is nice. maybe something like this?
I like it. Maybe he could have a pen or keyboard or something?
Vicki Rosenzweig vr@redbird.org writes:
At 12:45 AM 2/22/03 +0100, you wrote:
"Jay Bowks" jjbowks@adam.cheshire.net writes:
Hey, what about calling it a "Wikipede"! Lots of legs all pulling forward to good progress. Whatcha think?
mhm, the name is nice. maybe something like this?
I like it. Maybe he could have a pen or keyboard or something?
fine idea. I imagine a classic feather. But can a centipede writing with his feet? ;-) anyway, I'll try, if I find the time...
greetings, elian
I also think that any mascot we choose should reflect the fact that we are a cooperative, social project, in other words, it should be a social animal or insect. Dolphins, whales, ants, bees etc. all work nicely.
Leming (or rather a herd of lemings)
Lemmings aren't social at all. I personally nominate the leaf-cutter ant. They're both cooperative and inventive--they invented agriculture long before humans did, and are a model of cooperative productivity.
Lee Daniel Crocker lee@piclab.com writes:
Lemmings aren't social at all. I personally nominate the leaf-cutter ant. They're both cooperative and inventive--they invented agriculture long before humans did, and are a model of cooperative productivity.
On top of that, their social structure is like ours -- a group of socially equal workers ruled by a benevolent matriarchal figure (Hi Jimbo!)
On 21 Feb 2003 06:08:00 +0100, Erik Moeller erik_moeller@gmx.de wrote:
If there's consensus that we want a mascot, I suggest putting a call for suggestions on all the mainpages, with a link to an English page on Meta.
That might seem like overkill, but I really think we should use the wiki process here. There are many species -- prehistoric animals, insects, animals living only in a single, small world region -- which are largely unknown, yet unbelievably photogenic. I also think that any mascot we choose should reflect the fact that we are a cooperative, social project,
in other words, it should be a social animal or insect. Dolphins, whales,
ants, bees etc. all work nicely.
A meerkat? They rank with penguins for cuteness factor and have that look of curiosity.
seriously, isn't the monkey behind the typewriter exactly right?
Tom Parmenter Ortolan88
(Jimmy Wales jwales@bomis.com): Tom Parmenter wrote:
seriously, isn't the monkey behind the typewriter exactly right?
:-) I like it, anyway. I'm not voting for it, necessarily, but I'm fond of it.
Yeah, it's cute; and humorous in a self-deprecating way. But it's really a symbol of complete randomness, not evolved complexity. I'm sticking with the leaf-cutter ant.
If we want something humorously self-deprecating, we can switch to the only truly eusocial mammal: the naked mole rat.
|From: Lee Daniel Crocker lee@piclab.com |Content-Disposition: inline |X-URL: http://www.piclab.com/lee/ |Sender: wikipedia-l-admin@wikipedia.org |Reply-To: wikipedia-l@wikipedia.org |Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 11:14:04 -0600 | |> (Jimmy Wales jwales@bomis.com): |> Tom Parmenter wrote: |> > seriously, isn't the monkey behind the typewriter exactly right? |> |> :-) I like it, anyway. I'm not voting for it, necessarily, but I'm |> fond of it. | |Yeah, it's cute; and humorous in a self-deprecating way. But it's |really a symbol of complete randomness, not evolved complexity. |I'm sticking with the leaf-cutter ant. | |If we want something humorously self-deprecating, we can switch |to the only truly eusocial mammal: the naked mole rat. |
The monkey-at-typewriter symbol includes the trolls and vandals as contributors, not just the dutiful drones, as they do keep articles on the Recent Changes list and the rest of us alert.
However, switching away from flesh-and-blood animals for a moment, how about a particularly ripe starting position in "Conway's Game of Life" as a mascot?
Tom Parmenter Ortolan88
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The monkey-at-typewriter symbol includes the trolls and vandals as contributors, not just the dutiful drones, as they do keep articles on the Recent Changes list and the rest of us alert.
However, switching away from flesh-and-blood animals for a moment, how about a particularly ripe starting position in "Conway's Game of Life" as a mascot?
Hmm. We'd want one that generated increasing complexity; I know there are simple patters (like the "biloaf") that evolve into a glider gun. Are there any patterns that generate a continuing sequence of guns?
Another suggestion in the eusocial-insect class: termites eating through an old library dropping miscellaneous scraps of wisdom.
Jimmy Wales wrote:
Tom Parmenter wrote:
seriously, isn't the monkey behind the typewriter exactly right?
:-) I like it, anyway. I'm not voting for it, necessarily, but I'm fond of it.
Most suggestions I saw represent the writers rather than the 'pedia itself. It started with one article (BTW, does anyone remember which was the first "real" article?), and now there are more than 100 000. Must be *tribbles*! :-)
Magnus
(The Cunctator cunctator@kband.com): The [[slime mold]] is obviously the best choice.
...but it's really hard to turn into a recognizable logo.
Lee Daniel Crocker wrote:
(The Cunctator cunctator@kband.com): The [[slime mold]] is obviously the best choice.
...but it's really hard to turn into a recognizable logo.
Magnus Manske wrote:
Lee Daniel Crocker wrote:
(The Cunctator cunctator@kband.com): The [[slime mold]] is obviously the best choice.
...but it's really hard to turn into a recognizable logo.
Hmm! That looks like five red light-bulbs with white eyes painted on. The people who support slime-molds must be the same ones that say that walking on the moon didn't just happen in a Hollywood special FX lab. :-D
Ec.
On Fri, 2003-02-21 at 15:16, Lee Daniel Crocker wrote:
(The Cunctator cunctator@kband.com): The [[slime mold]] is obviously the best choice.
...but it's really hard to turn into a recognizable logo.
Hardly! One could easily anthropomorphize a plasmodium such as from these photos, as Magnus pointed out: http://dictybase.org/dd1.gifhttp://www.hiddenforest.co.nz/slime/photos/image... http://www.hiddenforest.co.nz/slime/photos/what02.htm http://www.mykoweb.com/photos/Slime_mold(ms-04).jpg
We could even use the species Dictyostelium.
http://dictygenome.bcm.tmc.edu/Background/
Dicty, the Wikipedia slime-mold mascot!
From: "Richard Grevers" dramatic@xtra.co.nz
A meerkat? They rank with penguins for cuteness factor and have that look of curiosity.
Are those the ones that stand up in a group and look all around like they're wondering what's going on? They're the funniest looking things! Cool idea though!
Since, Jay B.
Erik Moeller wrote:
Dolphins, whales, ants, bees etc. all work nicely. Of course, we could also choose a monkey sitting behind a typewriter ;-)
Termites are co-operative animals. In some ways we are like them in our work on the House of Intellectual Property. They are so maligned that there is little chance that anyone has chosen them as a mascot before.
Eclecticology
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