'as user of de.wikipedia and one of the people with the Ströbele page on my watchlist I can only second Toms opinion.' Sure - it indicates that you suffer from the same typically german problems as your forerunner. You definitely carefully avoid to deal in detail with my argument chain. You can mobilise many more dummies over there to repeat your faulty conclusions, but that doesn't mean they were right. Mass doesn't replace class. This is the experience I habe been making with the german Wikipedia. And I've mentioned that already. Just read the original message. Who - other than german - wants to blame me for looking for international support in this matter? From my worldwide experience (cf http://worldimprover.net/EN/en8.html ), I would consider US americans to be in the best position. Not just because of their history, but also because Wikipedia is a US venture. Can anyone among you hear me? And once again: I really think we can from now on do without any more comments from Germany, as long as they don't develop. I thought this was clear already after my last message, but Till Westermayer proves that I was mistaken.