[Wikipedia-l] Re: [WikiFR-l] Hébergement_chez Ouvaton

just as usual to slow down hasty decisions Yann said "But I didnot say there was urgency. It is you who interpretated things that way" Sure Yann In this mail, http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikifr-l/2003-November/000992.html you write "c'est nouveau pour nous, faut que je vois. on va faire �a vite." ->it is new to us, I have to consider this. We will have to do this very quickly And in this mail, you suggest the first assembly to take place on the 22 nd of november, and that meanwhile, we should agree on status, board and other minor problems http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikifr-l/2003-November/000996.html But undoubtely, it was just interpretation Yann said that the only goal of Ouvaton was to help Wikipedia, and that I was paranoid in saying we did not have to be hasty just because Ouvaton had agreed to host us (and could perhaps change their mind if we took too much time) I know very few commercial firms that would do things for free. There is always an interest. In that case, the adress being ouvaton.wikipedia.fr for example. Do we want that ? I said to Yann we had some material on the french wikipedia that could be problematic with french law, and that it could be eventually a problem. He asked me to be more precise. -> Fair use is not a doctrine recognised in France I asked Yann who would have legal responsability in case of a problem (such as copyright issues). He said he was ready to carry that responsability. I asked him if he had legal knowledge. He answered he was experienced in managing information, author rights, in particular as related to Internet. Fair use as well ? I asked why he would be as an individual responsible for our legal issues. He answered there were no problem right now. He asked what would be copied on the miror, everything, only encyclopedic articles, a selection of encyclopedic articles That is a good question :-) Who would do the job of selecting the articles every night ? :) I asked why the whole community had to be involved in a simple mirror setting ? He said it was not a personal project and that was why we had to create an association I say that is why we have to talk about it before creating an association and what are the answers ? Brion ? I said that wikipedia was one project in several languages, not several encyclopedia, and that what he was suggesting was a french-french project (the server will only host french wikipedia). He answered that no, it was only a mirror of the french wikipedia. In this mail http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikifr-l/2003-November/001004.html you specifically say that this is a temporary solution before we set a read and write server I said I understood that I understood there would be more pb raised than pb solved by the proposition (I personnnaly do not know) He says, not if the server is read only. But here In this mail http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikifr-l/2003-November/001004.html he says read is only temporary what are the technical issues in both cases then ? This should not need translation. What is the argument ? He says I should be positive sometimes :-) He is right of course :-))) He says he is doing propositions; he waits counter propositions, not blocking just for pleasure I apology Yann, but I do not do this for pleasure, but out of interest and concern for the project. I think any proposition should be dissected before being accepted, and who would dissect your proposition but me ? :-) What I do is discussion, to reach consensus. That is the way we do on Wikipedia. I see not where your problem is with it. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree