[Wikipedia-l] Re: [WikiFR-l] Alerte de vandalisme

--- athymik <athymik(a)ifrance.com> wrote: Je suis de retour depuis 15 mn Aucune connection a aucun site Good news We are safe, horray !!! Bad news : maybe the lag is happening because the assault moved to another place Do not restart the server !! When down, we are safe !!! Athymyk, seriously, could you tomorrow work on a "REPAIRBOT" I agree with it by default !!!! below some thoughts A vandal bot not taking all the advantages it could is either * a vandal managed by an idiot * a fire drill Typically * running the bot under an ip rather than loggued in user * giving up after a couple of minutes * only using a dozen ip at most * running on small wikis at the very moment when it is most likely for people to be watching rather than off-peak hours * same comment and same text everywhere == How could we detect a vandal bot ? == * more than xxx edits per minut with a max of yy edits per t mn * replacement of a text of more than xxx characters per a chain of less than yyy characters, this more than t times (especially the same text) * replacement of a text of more than xxx characters per picture, this more than t times (especially the same picture) * replacement of a text of more than xxx characters per blank page, this more than t times * identical comment per same user more than t times Pros : some perfectly acceptable actions can be repeted many times (reversion, typos...) :reponse : why not make a list of old-hands loggued users who might be excluded from the watch ? == How could detection system alert people ? == * automatic alert on mailing lists (main list, wikitech list, specific language list) * personnal mail alert for designed users, for specific language * general alert with visual indicator on all wikipedia (specific to language, example : interlanguage gets red) * personnal alert on talk pages of designed used == How could we stop the vandal bot ? == * international sysops * in recent change, the status of the ip or of the loggued-user must be displayed ("block this ip" or "ip blocked") * possibility to limit the number of edit per page of a loggued-in user per a sysop cons : abuse during edit war answer : peer pressure == How could we repair the damage ? == * RepairBot Spec : 1. accessibility :from the special pages :directly from recent change by clicking on the "ip blocked" link :sysop only ? :feature available only for blocked user or ip to limit abuse 2. Displays a page, with the vandal ip or user name, list of pages with "top" qualification (vandal was last to edit) 3. the repairBot go through all those pages one after the other; check if the last edit was the vandal one, revert to the last before vandalism. 4. repairBot is a non-loggued ip, to be stopped by a sysop cons : abuse during edit war Answer : the bot could be used only by a sysop different from the one who did the block _____________________________________________________________________ _____________________________________________________________________ _____________________________________________________________________ _____________________________________________________________________ _____________________________________________________________________ === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com