Gutza wrote:
Stevertigo wrote:
Gutza-- why dont you now put some energy into
developing some variants of the PM logo--- its the
winning concept, accept it, now please give it some of
your touch that it might be more pleasing to the
displeased.
You are right, I'm whining too much, and I hate to do it. The problem is
that I find the very concept to be tainted, it's not like you have to
work with puzzle pieces, you have to work with a ball made of puzzle
pieces. And there's not a lot you can do with that. Well, I did give it
a try this afternoon, and I'll probably give it a try tomorrow as well
if I find the time, but the results in this afternoon have been... well,
they made me write the e-mails I did, need I say more? :)
Gutza
Just for everybody's information, I have been in discussion with PM
about the logo and we are working to get the process of rendering the
logo working on my computer, and hopefully on others' too so they too
can modify the logo in fundamental ways. I didn't like the puzzle sphere
much before, but after looking at some of the source files I think it
holds promise. I also have significant design experience (in print,
corporate identity, and web) so I know exactly where Gutza's complaints
are coming from. I am working now on modifying two aspects of the logo
that are its major detractions:
(1) I have redesigned the text block. The currently using one suffers
from several major flaws: (a) the text is too dense, (b) the (roman)
text is in an ugly font, and (c) there are some gaps in the file that
cut off parts of lines, and overall, it's just kind of an amateurish
jobs. I have made a new text block, with glyphs that are well separated
but not too far apart, and I used the Code2000 font and glyphs from many
many writing systems, not just roman, cyrillic, arabic, and cjk. There
are glyphs from a variety of Indian scripts, Hebrew, Mongolian, Tibetan,
Amharic, Coptic, Runic, even some made-up ones like Klingon (although
there is only 1 Klingon glyph), as well as some non-alphabetic symbols.
I think it will look much better, although I must confess I haven't got
the renderer working yet so I haven't seen it on the sphere.
(2) Instead of the puzzle pieces simply being a set of black lines
dividing up the image mapped onto the sphere, I am going to make the
puzzle pieces into a bump-map. What this means is that there won't be
black lines all over the sphere that look like puzzle pieces; instead,
at the edges of the puzzle pieces, there will be a 3-d beveled effect
that resembles how the pieces intersect in a real jigsaw puzzle.
I think the combination of (1) and (2) will dramatically reduce the
cluttered or busy look of the current logo. At least I hope so. Of
course if no one likes my modified version, then so be it, but I think
most will see it as an improvement upon the major flaws in the current logo.
After thinking about this issue a lot today, I realize that one of the
major problems with the voting process is that there was confusion
about whether we were voting for particular logos or just logo concepts.
I think in a future logo selection, it will be helpful for each logo to
have a declaration of concept so that if people like the idea but not
the particular implementation they can still get behind the idea.
Finally, I ask that all those who are objecting to the logo hold off for
a day or two while I finalize my modifications. I believe most will
agree that even if it is not the logo they would have picked, it is one
they can live with.
- David [[User:Nohat]]