The real username is the user account name.
This is allowed --> [[User:tillwe]]
This is allowed --> [[User:tillwe|till we *)]]
This is disallowed --> [[User:tillwe|Till]]
This can be discussed --> [[User:tillwe|Till
Westermayer]]
This is can be discussed --> [[User:tillwe|Mr.
Westermayer]]
This is disallowed --> [[User:tillwe|***]]
This is dissallowed --> [[User:tillwe|A guy from
Freiburg, Germany]]
This is bannable behaviour -->
[[User:tillwe|Jimbo himself]]
This is bannable behaviour --> [[User:optim|till
we *)]]
when I say "this is allowed" etc I mean
"according to my idea". My idea may change
according to the input and arguments of other
wikipedians, including you.
an "attempt to hide your real username" is
defined as: Any action which results in inability
of other wikipedians to say what your real user
account is without examining your userpage link.
examining one's userpage link is usually done by
using the mouse to point on the link and reading
the browser's status bar message which reveals
the target address. However, in other
environments (PDAs?) or text mode browsers
(Lynx?) this may not be so easy. Hypothetically,
copying and pasting a discussion will result in
loss of the wiki-markup and the links, and if you
hide, mask, encrypt, change or whatever your
username, it will be impossible to say who you
are by reading the pasted content.
[[User:tillwe]] is allowed because it is your
real username.
[[User:tillwe|till we *)]] is allowed because it
contains your real username and the possibility
to be confused with another username is close to
zero. Everything which contains your exact real
username is allowed, as long as it cannot create
confusion or be misunderstood as another
username. [[User:Optim|Optimus]] would be
disallowed because another user Optimus may exist
and other wikipedians may not immediatelly
understand that Optimus=Optim. [[User:Optim|Optim
.'.]] is allowed because others wikipedians can
normally immediately understand that "Optim .'."
is "Optim". The possibility for someone to create
a useraccount with decorative text approaches
zero. If another useraccount "Optim .'." exists,
it would be disallowed for me to use it in my
signature.
[[User:tillwe|Till]] is disallowed because it
creates confusion and can be used as a way to
hide your real username. If you want to hide your
identity you can logoff and post with an
anonymous IP. Also, another useraccount may exist
with the name "Till". Not everybody knows your
first name, so we should examine the link in
order to understand who you are.
[[User:tillwe|Till Westermayer]] this can be
discussed. I am undecided on this. I want to
listen to you and other wikipedians about how
they think on this. My initial idea on this:
Disallowed because not everybody knows your full
name so we cannot say that Till Westermayer is
tillwe until we examine the link. However this is
your legal name and it is acceptable from a legal
POV, so it should be also acceptable in the
wiki. For the moment I am undecided. How do you
think?
[[User:tillwe|Mr. Westermayer]] this can also be
discussed. I am undecided on this. I want to
listen to you and other wikipedians about how
they think on this. My initial idea on this:
Disallowed because not everybody knows your last
name so we cannot say that Mr. Westermayer is
tillwe until we examine the link. However this is
your legal name and it is acceptable from a legal
POV, so it should be also acceptable in the
wiki. For the moment I am undecided. How do you
think?
[[User:tillwe|***]] this is disallowed because it
is an attempt to hide your real username.
[[User:tillwe|A guy from Freiburg, Germany]] this
is disallowed because it is an attempt to hide
your real username.
[[User:tillwe|Jimbo himself]] is bannable
behaviour because you pretend to be someone else.
[[User:optim|till we *)]] is bannable behaviour:
it creates confusion until someone examines the
Page history. Some people may think that it was
me that posted the message.
Why we need the prohibition:
Someone may vote to delete one of the articles I
started and I feel emotionally involved and I
don't want it to be deleted. hypothetically I
could go to the vfd page and I vote NO with the
signature [[User:Optim|Angela]]. I hope you
understand why this is bad. Another possibility:
I go to the vfd page and I vote NO with the
signature [[User:Optim|blablabla]]. My intention
would be to make people think that I am another
user not emotionally involved in the issue. Only
the users who will examine my userpage link will
understand who I really was. If someone tells me
that it is "illegal" to sign with
[[User:Optim|blablabla]] I may request to see an
actual policy page which prohibits this kind of
signature, etc etc etc...
--Optim
--- Till Westermayer <till(a)tillwe.de> wrote:
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
. . . till we *) . . .
Hi Optim,
I think at least in voting pages and policy
discussion pages etc, hiding the real username
should be considered harmful.
What exactly is the "real username"? My
username is "tillwe", and my
standard signature in Wikipedia is "till we *)"
because I like it that
way. My real real name is Till Westermayer.
Which of the following
voting signs should be legal (if used by me on
a voting page)?
[[User:tillwe]]
[[User:tillwe|till we *)]]
[[User:tillwe|Till]]
[[User:tillwe|Till Westermayer]]
[[User:tillwe|Mr. Westermayer]]
[[User:tillwe|***]]
[[User:tillwe|A guy from Freiburg, Germany]]
[[User:tillwe|Jimbo himself]]
[[User:optim|till we *)]]
And why?
With the page history function and the preview
of actual link I don't
think we need this proposed prohibition.
Regards, Till
__ .
/ / / / ... Till
Westermayer - till we *)
. .
. mailto:till@tillwe.de .
www.westermayer.de/till/ . icq 320393072
. Habsburgerstr. 82 . 79104 Freiburg . 0761
55697152 . 0160 96619179
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