On 28/01/2008, Casey Brown cbrown1023.ml@gmail.com wrote:
I agree with Cary here. A local chapter should take the same stance as I know WMUK and FR do: they should inform the person who sent that letter that they do not have an official handle on the content of the wiki,
The said that they already did that, but the sysops still keep the older versions deleted. They say that they do it to protect their editors from being sued, but I believe that this is an over-reaction and a very dangerous precedent.
... and that they should contact the actual Wikimedia Foundation by mail if there is a legal request to do with something like BLP.
Exactly - and AFAIK they didn't do it yet.
Let me reiterate - I don't have anything against the sysops of he.wiki, and i sincerely hope that the foundation can assist them. I believe that it is the first time that he.wiki is in such an acute BLP situation, but i might be wrong. In any case, it's never too late.
That said, having looked at the current Hebrew article, and being familiar with the most of the incidents, the article is highly POV. That is to say, it may be sourced, but it is still POV. For any Israelis reading this list, Shach and Ovadiah Yoseph made no less outrageous comments in their time, but their articles seem to be far more balanced.
On 28/01/2008, daniwo59@aol.com daniwo59@aol.com wrote:
That said, having looked at the current Hebrew article, and being familiar with the most of the incidents, the article is highly POV. That is to say, it may be sourced, but it is still POV. For any Israelis reading this list, Shach and Ovadiah Yoseph made no less outrageous comments in their time, but their articles seem to be far more balanced.
The current article also suffers from all the brouhaha around it. It has been edited by several new accounts, which are most probably operated by experienced users whose reaction to the situation is part encyclopedic, part tongue-in-cheek. Certainly not the right way to handle it.
Maybe currently it is the right thing to protect it as WP:OFFICE afterall, but the problem is that WP:OFFICE is not a written policy in he.wiki. I can volunteer to translate it, but i can't provide the legal backing and again - i hope that the foundation can assist here.